Giles 5,793 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) It's about time I started a thread on the next little layout (and also started doing some work on it!). It will be based around a small cable manufacturing company, again circa early '60's. The viewing portion will consist of the trans-shipment of cable (drums) out of the factory via the 2ft gauge railway onto standard gauge wagons for distribution. I dare say road transport may also play a part..... [/url] The narrow gauge wagons have been made and I have lots of locos to haul them I've built the first point, which will get tram-wayed in, and made a tool to emboss 'setts' easily into the surface (the shorter side on top of the tool fits into the 'four-foot') and of course the transfer crane has been built and working for some time. Lastly, of course, the Garratt has finally been finished, and will find a home here.... It will all take a bit of time - but that's the fun.....! Edited February 20, 2015 by Giles 40 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colin penfold 6,992 Posted February 20, 2015 oh yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1whitemoor 660 Posted February 21, 2015 I must say your Bagnall looks very much at home - very reminiscent of BICC in Kent! Paul A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 21, 2015 Ah... 'Sir Tom' etc.....! A very happy coincidence? I think they must have handled some quite large drums there, as their wagons required bars in between, which mine don't (for the diameter) unless there was some other reason requiring separation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 21, 2015 For the sake of tidiness and continuity, here's the video of the trial set-up of the transfer crane in action (I know most people have seen it on other threads, but this is the layout it is destined for....) 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) I've been working on one of the other points (which will be ballasted, and are therefore conventionally made with C&L chairs and sleepers). As you may know, I've recently got back into silver-soldering in building 7mm stuff (I've been silversoldering bigger stuff and smaller stuff all my life, but like most people, revert to using soft solder on almost everything model railway simply out of habit!). All the valve gear and slide bar assemblies on the Garratt were silver-soldered, together with all the valve gear rivets - which was soooo much easier than soft soldering..... And so I've been continuing this into the point making as well. The nose of the points is silver soldered, together with the 0.8mm nickel silver bar, which will tie in the wing rails. Apart from being extremely easy to do, the value of silver soldering all these, is that when I come to (soft) solder the wing rails to the bar etc., there is absolutely no risk of anything coming adrift and causing me difficulties. The silver-solder melts at around 720 degrees C. Edited February 22, 2015 by Giles 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
81A Oldoak 10,414 Posted February 23, 2015 I like the look of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avonside1563 1,472 Posted February 23, 2015 Ah... 'Sir Tom' etc.....! A very happy coincidence? I think they must have handled some quite large drums there, as their wagons required bars in between, which mine don't (for the diameter) unless there was some other reason requiring separation. Can't be 'Sir Tom' or 'Woto', they were both 3'6" gauge when at BICC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 23, 2015 Can't be 'Sir Tom' or 'Woto', they were both 3'6" gauge when at BICC https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_grin.gif No, they were also oil-burners - but then I'm not trying to recreate the BICC! (They had some interesting locos there, and some very pretty well-wagons!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warspite 1,016 Posted February 24, 2015 Giles This is looking very nice. Looking forward to see how it develops ..... By the way, what size are the scenic boards? Stephen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Hi Stephen - They're 8' x 2' 10" ( 2 off 4' x 2' 10") - as much as I can possibly store and fit into the car!!! Meanwhile, I've built one of the proper two points. The stock rails have a joggle to each of them to take the blade. This was done easily by putting in two bends with pliers, side-by-side (then dressing the top down flat again) The blades needed a break to allow them to pivot, as they were too short to rely of simple flexing. I therefore made simple fish-plates from nickel-silver (etch off-cuts) and silver-soldered them to the chaired rail, drilled out a 0.5 hole with the blade placed in the fish plates, and then put some 0.5mm wire through the lot, and put a touch of silver solder on both ends of the wire. This gave me a little movement on the blade, while holding it nicely vertical. 0.8mm nickel silver wire was silver-soldered to the tip of the blade to engage with the tie bar - which is a piece of 00 copper paxolin sleeper, with two pieces of small diameter tube soldered to it. Once the blades are in position in the tie-bar, the ends of the 0.8mm NS were bent over at 90 degrees to retain it all, and then trimmed off. I know it's not a wonderfully correct scale point, but I think it will read correctly, and mechanically it's OK Edited February 24, 2015 by Giles 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 6,428 Posted February 27, 2015 Looking forward to watching this one grow Giles, and will the garratt be running on it? Cheers, Dave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 27, 2015 Oh yes.....! And of course what isn't clear on the drawing is the 1:15 gradient up from the 'main- line'...... It should get those engines rocking.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob110 0 Posted February 28, 2015 Looking forward to watching this one grow Giles, and will the garratt be running on it? Cheers, Dave. And the class 37? Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 28, 2015 And the class 37? Bob Well, that might rumble in on the main line, from time-to-time - though I dare say I'll have to re-profile the wheels, which will be a nuisance - but we'll see...... (It would be more useful with finer profiles, of course) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) ... And I've finished the third (and final) standard Guage point. That might seem like not a lot to everyone else, but it seems to take me forever - so it's a nice hurdle to have jumped. Baseboards next, then some track can go down! Edited February 28, 2015 by Giles 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob110 0 Posted February 28, 2015 Oh go on lets see the 37. Please Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob110 0 Posted March 5, 2015 Giles can you let me know where to get the Silver Solder paste as featured in you video please. Also does it work well on brass? Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted March 5, 2015 Hi Bob, I get it from Cooksons http://www.cooksongold.com/category_select.jsp?query=Silver+Solder+Paste+10g+-+Easy%2C+Syringe&queryFromSuggest=true But you can also get in from Amazon if you do a search...... Yes - it works very well with brass, nickel-silver, copper, steel etc.. Smear it on where you want it, and away you go (after a clean with emery of glass-fibre brush etc.) You'll find it may change the sequence of your assembly work a bit - but it really does make life easier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob110 0 Posted March 5, 2015 Thanks Giles. I have used Silver solder in my engineering career, but never considered it in modeling. Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greengiant 1,239 Posted March 8, 2015 Hi Giles, Just stumbled across this, will be watching with interest. When should I pencil in the first operator training session? Martin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted March 8, 2015 It's got to be 18 months plus...... Time to warm up your fingers for crane operation as well as lorries, Garratts, and anything else I can organise for you both! (You wouldn't like it too simple....) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giles 5,793 Posted March 9, 2015 Trying the track for size and 'layout' 4mm ply track-bed to go down next 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob110 0 Posted March 9, 2015 What track are you using Giles? Bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
