Bulleidboy100 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Irwell says 35011 had safety valve modifications between 5/1/54 and 23/1/54. No mention of cab modifications. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Bulleidboy100 said: Irwell says 35011 had safety valve modifications between 5/1/54 and 23/1/54. No mention of cab modifications. There is a gap in 35011's works record in my Second edition copy of the Irwell book, from 11/51 to 04/53. Reference on p.60 in A.J. Fry's "Bulleid Power" states cab was modified in September 1950. Boiler 1104 replaced 1111 at the same time. On further reading it is mentioned in Derry within a HC overhaul, but a boiler record from 1955 seems to have been transposed into the middle of the entry. John Edited January 27, 2021 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I've just looked at Locomotives in detail - Merchant Navy Class by R.J.Harvey - it says that 35011 had cab modifications 29/9/50. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 35017 had the cab modified in 1948, with 35022 and 35029 having the revised pattern from new. SV positions need careful reading as there was a fair bit of boiler swapping so there's a danger that a loco could have reverted to the earlier arrangement. John Edited January 27, 2021 by Dunsignalling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Bulleidboy100 said: Irwell says 35011 had safety valve modifications between 5/1/54 and 23/1/54. No mention of cab modifications. 35011 got the new cab in 9/21950 as in subsequent replies. 35017 had new cab in 1948 (from Dunsignalling's reply) and safety valves as noted varied with boiler swaps and I generally think of 1955-56 as the main timeframe for moving front forward to rearward positions,together with drop in boiler pressure from 280lb to 250lb (but not necessarily at the same time?) It's usually noted in the works visit descriptions in Irwell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Hi, thanks to everyone for the information. Is there anywhere I can look up when 35022 and 35029 made works visits? Thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 29, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2021 55 minutes ago, Fredo said: Hi, thanks to everyone for the information. Is there anywhere I can look up when 35022 and 35029 made works visits? Thanks Fred Try the BR Database website. https://www.brdatabase.info/locoqry.php?action=class&id=346202&type=S&page=fleet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt35027 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Hattons now list R3632 35024 as in stock between February and April 2021 and R3717 21C7 as March-May 2021. Let's hope they don't cancel my pre orders like they've been doing to other customers lately 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidore Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 And another point for anyone waiting / with preorders -- 35029 Ellerman Lines is listed on the retailers' websites with artwork showing the long tender, but on Hornby's site this has now changed to the 6'6"+6'6" variety so there appears to have been a change of mind there. I've not looked into the dates / whys and wherefores but presumably H have decided this gives better chronological range or something. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Calidore said: And another point for anyone waiting / with preorders -- 35029 Ellerman Lines is listed on the retailers' websites with artwork showing the long tender, but on Hornby's site this has now changed to the 6'6"+6'6" variety so there appears to have been a change of mind there. I've not looked into the dates / whys and wherefores but presumably H have decided this gives better chronological range or something. Adam 35029 got the short tender (no.3129, ex-35018) in July 1952, which it retained on rebuilding and kept right through to 1965. The loco was repainted into BR green at the same time, so the long tender and the livery would not go together. Her original tender (3347) went to 35020 Bibby Line, then in 1956 to 35022 Holland America Line. John EDIT: Hornby must have cottoned on to this some time ago as the illustration in the 2020 catalogue correctly shows the 5100g tender. Edited February 16, 2021 by Dunsignalling 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Next Hornby MN announcement I'm hoping for would be 35021 New Zealand Line, which had its 6000g. tender cut down in 1952, concurrently with Light Pacifics 34011, 34043 and 34065. 35021 entered works for this to be done on the day I was born..... John Edited February 16, 2021 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Hornby website now shows R3861 Belgian Marine with short tender as coming soon for Spring 2021. This was originally listed for Autumn. Strangely enough, no mention of R3632 East Asiatic Line in BR early blue livery in this update, which was supposedly due around now. Edited February 16, 2021 by Black 5 Bear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 The next two weeks are looking distinctly blue.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fireline said: The next two weeks are looking distinctly blue.... Be worth it "hopefully" when it arrives. Let's hope the second batch of M/Ns have not been produced at the same factory as the recently released A2/2s.... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidore Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Black 5 Bear said: Be worth it "hopefully" when it arrives. Let's hope the second batch of M/Ns have not been produced at the same factory as the recently released A2/2s.... I’m hopeful that there isn’t much that can go wrong with the MN, given the casing style. No exposed running plates or the like. Colour should be the only potentially dangerous territory and I shall keep faith until I have reason to do otherwise...! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted February 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Fireline said: The next two weeks are looking distinctly blue.... But not black. I suppose you could say that there’s not too much Hornby could do to screw up on those two liveries but that would be tempting providence. I see the invasion of the body swappers is upon us over on the A2/2 thread.A trend started a couple of years ago with Bulleid rebuild tender 34050. Unwanted bodies for sale on eBay ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paftrain Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I’m not happy - just had an email from hattons to say my order for 35024 blue Merchant has been cancelled. What is it with Hornby? I ordered with Rails when it was announced years ago, that got cancelled because Rails had a bust up with Hornby, so I re-ordered with Hattons, now that’s gone as well. What is going on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, paftrain said: I’m not happy - just had an email from hattons to say my order for 35024 blue Merchant has been cancelled. What is it with Hornby? I ordered with Rails when it was announced years ago, that got cancelled because Rails had a bust up with Hornby, so I re-ordered with Hattons, now that’s gone as well. What is going on? My inference is that Hatton's have been chancing their arm by taking preorders on an assumption that Hornby will supply all they want. OTOH, perhaps Hornby would just prefer you to buy direct from them.... John Edited February 25, 2021 by Dunsignalling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, paftrain said: I’m not happy - just had an email from hattons to say my order for 35024 blue Merchant has been cancelled. What is it with Hornby? I ordered with Rails when it was announced years ago, that got cancelled because Rails had a bust up with Hornby, so I re-ordered with Hattons, now that’s gone as well. What is going on? Try Dan at Derails of Coleford. I have one on pre-order with him and I'm pretty sure he has some left. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Black 5 Bear said: Try Dan at Derails of Coleford. I have one on pre-order with him and I'm pretty sure he has some left. I've just checked and M/N EAC is still available to pre-order at £161.99 with free postage. Customer service is second to none from a very satisfied customer. Edited February 25, 2021 by Black 5 Bear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, paftrain said: I’m not happy - just had an email from hattons to say my order for 35024 blue Merchant has been cancelled. What is it with Hornby? I ordered with Rails when it was announced years ago, that got cancelled because Rails had a bust up with Hornby, so I re-ordered with Hattons, now that’s gone as well. What is going on? We had this discussion on another thread. It seems that, whenever pre-orders are cancelled, it's the same two retailers that are mentioned. I don't think that can be coincidence.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt35027 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Count me as one of the 'cancel crew'. I'll be cancelling my pre order for 21C7 with Hattons as well, time to phone round some independents and see who I can place an order with. I don't think I'll be pre ordering anything from Hattons again.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Gateway Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I too have had my order cancelled by Hattons. I pre ordered it with them after having it cancelled by Rails. After they cancelled all but one item from the 2021 range I pre ordered with them and now this, I will never be using Hattons again either that's for sure. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt35027 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I've moved my pre orders to Derails after seeing them being highly recommended on here. Excellent service over the phone and 35024 is due in the next two weeks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I pre-ordered my R3632 35024 East Asiatic Company from Rails on 13 April 2018. After Rails fell out with Hornby I pre-ordered the airsmoothed Bulleid Pacific from the Swanage Railway shop where I will get a 10% discount as a premier life member. The model cannot be damaged in the post and it will be easy to take back if it does not work. I returned my last airsmoothed Merchant Navy to Hornby and the firm replaced the motor. The Swanage Station shop stopped stocking Hornby after the shop had problems with supply so it looks like Hornby are partly to blame for the cancelled orders. The Swanage Station shop started stocking Hornby again after the supplies improved 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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