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Pleased to receive mine this morning after what seems to have been a while since I ordered it.

 

A lovely model, flawless blue finish and runs super smoothly.

 

Mine also has the front lamps pointing upwards, so I expect this is a general assembly error across all of them. I've tweaked the lamp brackets (very carefully) to be more upright which sort of disguises the lamps not being vertical. Not a big deal, and here's hoping Hornby can fix it before Aberdeen Commonwealth (I think Belgian Marine is already on the way.

 

I hadn't realised that the Hornby red boxes are now being supplied in a plastic outer bag within a robust cardboard outer (and then shipped in another cardboard box with padding by Hattons).  

 

Sam

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, maico said:

The angle of the lower front lamps needs sorting!

A minor issue easily rectified.

I'm looking forward to opening and running mine, which arrived this morning. 

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Must be a busy day at the Ocean dock as No.24 is having to wait for its boat train service across at Canute Road Quay.... 

 

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It is an excellent model, other than just a couple of minor niggles. 
The front lamps although separate mouldings are pointed slightly skyward that like the other versions already delivered is due to the design rather than an assembly issue as the mounting peg is perpendicular to the rear of the lamp. 
I have already replaced the lamp irons atop of the lamps and painted out the silver paint lamp lenses.
Note although the front lamps were brass cases (the tender lamps were steel cases)  it’s only in preservation they are polished brass as in service they were painted. 

The next thing to do is replace

the poor looking printed nameplate, an etched plate, with a better colour rendition for the enamelled centre flag background, is on order. 
 

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28 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said:

Note although the front lamps were brass cases (the tender lamps were steel cases) 


 

Is that so?  34023 Blackmore Vale and 35028 Clan Line both had (painted) brass tender lamps in BR service, I am reliably informed.

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Martin

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On 18/03/2021 at 16:34, Ian Hargrave said:

And as a footnote to the delivery of 35024 ,an email now received from Hornby announcing the release describes it as bedecked in “experimental blue livery “. Except of course there was nothing experimental about it.....as opposed to some A4’s which H have released over the years. Blue was standard for a short while for BR 8P locos from all regions.Some A3 received it too . Sorry for the pedantry but H do have R&D etc.to ensure accuracy of what’s both inside the box and printed on the outside. Oh never mind,it’ll be good to recreate memories of Waterloo & Clapham Junction in the ( very) early 1950’s. Now what about aTavern Car to accompany it ?

There is a very good colour pic of 35024 leaving Waterloo 21-6-49 pulling a special train conveying members of the Royal Family--page 48/49 of R J Harvey,s locos in detail series--in blue with what appears to be twin yellow lining.Richard Derry,s book  decribes the use of  two black lines edged with white. Maybe the colour reproduction isn,t quite what it should be. Also with continuous black skirt  covering loco and tender and red backed nameplate.

  There is also a good pic on page 46 showing 35024 in unlined malachite +light pacific tender.

I have just ordered 35029 having used a number of books to check if the details are correct for my era.

It may be of interest for others contemplating the same purchase to have a look at the following--

Era4--BR green from 7-52.Early emblem from new ?,2-49 to rebuild 9-59.Modified cab also from new.

High sided 5100 gallon tender from 7-52.Casing in front of cyls. removed at same time.

The red backed nameplate may have changed in the early/mid 50,s--there is a pic of 35029 leaving Victoria 1n 1956 with what appears to be a black backed plate

Fluted rods to 8-56. Safety valves resited 12-54.Shedded  at 70A from 6-55>>>64.

I conclude that the Hornby model reflects 35029 correctly from 12-54 to 9-59 except for plain rods from 8-56 and possibly nameplate backing colour.

However my era is flexible enough to accomodate.

regards,

Ed

 

 

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10 minutes ago, MartinTrucks said:

Is that so?  34023 Blackmore Vale and 35028 Clan Line both had (painted) brass tender lamps in BR service, I am reliably informed.

Best regards,

Martin


Certainly originally the tender lamps were steel cases and the General Steam Navigation Locomotive Restoration Society have at least one steel cased lamp in their possession. 

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1 hour ago, ed 66 plant said:

There is a very good colour pic of 35024 leaving Waterloo 21-6-49 pulling a special train conveying members of the Royal Family--page 48/49 of R J Harvey,s locos in detail series--in blue with what appears to be twin yellow lining.Richard Derry,s book  decribes the use of  two black lines edged with white. Maybe the colour reproduction isn,t quite what it should be. Also with continuous black skirt  covering loco and tender and red backed nameplate.

 

regards,

Ed

 

 


Ed 

 

It’s from a well known Colour Rail slide and the lining to the horizontal black bands is definitely white both on the slide and also the reproduction in my copy of the Locomotives in Detail book.

 

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1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:


Certainly originally the tender lamps were steel cases and the General Steam Navigation Locomotive Restoration Society have at least one steel cased lamp in their possession. 

Only guesswork but, given the propensity of steel to go brown and fall to pieces, might the brass lamp housings be later replacements?

 

John 

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Some very nice pics of the model in Kernow's weekly newsletter which has just landed.

 

The blue livery is way too early for me and I've never thought it looks good on anything other than an A4, or (perhaps perversely) a King.   

 

However, it's arrival has definitely tweaked my anticipation for my (green) Ellerman Lines, which I'm hoping isn't too far behind it. I'm already plotting a refit for those headlamps and hope they aren't glued on too well.

 

Even 35029, as one of the last three MNs to remain in air-smoothed condition, should have required gentle application of Rule one, but I've side-stepped that by extending "my" era back a year to accommodate it! I don't have either of the locos that were "seen to" after it in rebuilt form, so my conscience is clear.

 

I'll have to keep it away from the Hymeks, though; if the Infinite Improbability Drive kicks in, I could end up anywhere (or rather, everywhere).:jester:

 

John

 

 

 

 

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I too am willing to entertain a little era /other detail flexibility--especially for what is a fantastic model.

I am lucky in the sense that my era 1954-58/9 allows me to concurrently run original and rebuilt forms. Hence my interest in 35029,one of the later ones to be rebuilt.

Prior to that I purchased 35028 in original form and changed the i.d. to 35030--rebuilt somewhat earlier but still sitting ok alongside my early rebuilt models of 35018 (no/name change) and 35014.

The four also show detail variety--tender capacity/tender H.S or cut down/rebuilt/original form,safety valve position,black and red backed nameplates.--variety is the spice of ----.

Anticipating the arrival of my purchase --is it worth considering the Hornby sound chip or am I better looking elsewhere--wheel slip being important to me?

Mr Hornby---what a fantastic model--to design and build such a detailed and refined model for what I believe is a reasonable price--keep the good work up.

Ed

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6 hours ago, Bulleidboy100 said:

Mine has also arrived.

 

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Just for fun I did a screen shot of your 35024 and ran it through Picasa, with slightly better detail...  hope that's ok.

 

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The blue in the photo is comparable to Kernow's ....   and I am pleased that my version is on its way.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Hastings Thumper said:

Pleased to receive mine this morning after what seems to have been a while since I ordered it.

 

A lovely model, flawless blue finish and runs super smoothly.

 

Mine also has the front lamps pointing upwards, so I expect this is a general assembly error across all of them. I've tweaked the lamp brackets (very carefully) to be more upright which sort of disguises the lamps not being vertical. Not a big deal, and here's hoping Hornby can fix it before Aberdeen Commonwealth (I think Belgian Marine is already on the way.

 

I hadn't realised that the Hornby red boxes are now being supplied in a plastic outer bag within a robust cardboard outer (and then shipped in another cardboard box with padding by Hattons).  

 

Sam

 

 

 

35024 1.jpeg

35025 box.jpeg

 

I hope you don't mind Hastings Thumper, I put your picture through Picasa photo editor and made it a bit clearer, on my screen anyway.

 

What a super model!

 

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I see that the dreaded front lamp brackets look close to vertical on yours, overall such a fine model! I must be sure that when I try to tweak mine forwards I take great care and chose a warm room.  Otherwise there will be a route disc installation! :)

 

 

 

 

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On 18/03/2021 at 10:19, Derails Models said:

 

  • On a very small number of models the chassis keeper plate was very slightly loose, nothing to write home about, just a small screwdriver required to tighten the screws.

 

Mine seems like it may have been one of these. I put it on the track and tried easing it forwards and got a tight spot at low speed/thump once properly on the move at the same point in each wheel rotation (but not when reversing, strangely). Turning it over and jiggling each driving wheelset, it was apparent that the rear left wheel could move up and down while the right couldn't, which suggested that the brass bush for that side of the axle had slid out of position along the axle. After removing the keeper plate to check this proved to be the case, and with the bush dropped back into its slot and the plate back on it now seems OK -  running in is now in progress.

 

This minor issue does my already low opinion of Hornby quality control no favours, but as a quick and easy fix with a fairly obvious cause and minimal risk involved it does at least mean I don't have to trouble Dan for a return. Any more significant issue would have seen it going back though. Remember folks, these things have a warranty for a reason, and by returning an unsatisfactory loco you increase the likelihood that issues will be reported back to the manufacturer, hopefully improving things for the next model.

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My R3632 35024 is due to arrive tomorrow from Derails. I was one of the lucky 8 that responded in time to their newsletter notifying that they had a few available. So I thought I would look around for an R8115 TTS sound decoder, I only thought about this after I had placed my order, as Derails did have some in stock.

 

However, this morning I found that Colletts Models are doing the R8115 for an incredible £24.99, so I’ve just ordered, along with an R8121 Class 66 decoder for the same price. The lowest prices I have ever seen for TTS decoders.

 

I suspect, now that the second coming of the Merchant Navy is upon us, these R8115s will vanish pretty quickly. In my opinion the whistles are the best feature of this sound chip, the chuffs are a bit suspect...but for  the money and with a speaker upgrade....

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13 hours ago, robmcg said:

 

I hope you don't mind Hastings Thumper, I put your picture through Picasa photo editor and made it a bit clearer, on my screen anyway.

 

What a super model!

 

35024_Image12abcdef.jpg.ae1993bfe88364ea9ddf069c52221ce7.jpg

 

I see that the dreaded front lamp brackets look close to vertical on yours, overall such a fine model! I must be sure that when I try to tweak mine forwards I take great care and chose a warm room.  Otherwise there will be a route disc installation! :)

 

 

 

 

Thanks Rob - that’s a great improvement

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I received mine yesterday and was put to the test today. Excellent model, run in on the rollers and then load tested to 8 MK1's. It struggled a bit so I took 1 off and ran fine. I then added mt 5 GNR 4 wheelers to the back to add a teeny bit more weight though only minimal. Ran fine without any slip. BUT beware of the NEM pockets on the tender, make sure its fully pushed in. After a few laps of the layout, all of a sudden the loco broke free and before I could stop it, it ran into the back of the 4 wheelers, with the NEM still attached to the lead coach.  Luckily there was no damage to loco or coach, but you have been warned. Or maybe i was just unlucky.

 

RAIB have been informed ;) 

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For what it's worth the Merchant Navy engines come as mentioned with manufacturer's code LOT ....   the A2/3 I have just received has code GFT .... presumably the same as A2/2s.

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Just seen on facebook that these are now in stock at rails of sheffield.

 

R3632 BR East Asiatic Company Merchant Navy Class 4-6-2 Steam Locomotive 35024 (OO Gauge) by Hornby - Rails of Sheffield

 

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5 minutes ago, meatloaf said:

Just seen on facebook that these are now in stock at rails of sheffield.

 

R3632 BR East Asiatic Company Merchant Navy Class 4-6-2 Steam Locomotive 35024 (OO Gauge) by Hornby - Rails of Sheffield

 

Typical... after cancelling my order from the same day of announcement (or very close!!)

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