Hornby Merchant Navy announced (formerly Facebook leak)

[Matt35027]

2 hours ago, Calidore said:

 

There's a wonderful colour photo floating around somewhere of '27, broadside-style, at Stewart's Lane. Surprisingly for the period, it's pretty dirty, and the photo is a wonderful weathering guide which is making me slightly tempted to get a blue one after all. People often talk about the blue fading, but in this photo Port Line has the top row of lining almost entirely worn off, and almost all the casing panel joints / rows of rivets / washout plugs full of black-brown gunge. It'd make a great weathering project with some washes and a dry brush.

This one? 

 

[Market65]

Well now, a bit sooner than I was anticipating, here are some photo’s of 21C7. It really is one of Hornby’s best ever models. I will let the photo’s speak for themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I think you will agree that this model is worth every penny, and is just so

very good unlike the problems that were encountered with the Thompson pacifics. Please also note that the front footsteps are already fitted along with all of the brake rigging. But they are all very fragile so great care must be taken when handling the model.

I will be fitting etched plates in due course.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Black 5 Bear]

59 minutes ago, Market65 said:

Well now, a bit sooner than I was anticipating, here are some photo’s of 21C7. It really is one of Hornby’s best ever models. I will let the photo’s speak for themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I think you will agree that this model is worth every penny, and is just so

very good unlike the problems that were encountered with the Thompson pacifics. Please also note that the front footsteps are already fitted along with all of the brake rigging. But they are all very fragile so great care must be taken when handling the model.

I will be fitting etched plates in due course.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

Wartime black certainly brings a certain rugged/purposefulness on the Merchant Navy class.

As you say Rob, one of Hornby's best to date.

Absolutely superb !

[mattingleycustom]

The only error I can see with 21C7 is the three lamps above the bufferbeam are all pointing skywards (35024 is the same), other than that it's pretty good.

 

Did the earlier release: 21C3 Royal Mail have this error?

 

Glenn

[Hilux5972]

Hard to tell in the Hattons photo. Looks a bit less skyward though 

[Black 5 Bear]

42 minutes ago, mattingleycustom said:

The only error I can see with 21C7 is the three lamps above the bufferbeam are all pointing skywards (35024 is the same), other than that it's pretty good.

 

Did the earlier release: 21C3 Royal Mail have this error?

 

Glenn

This seems to be a feature of all the so far newly released M/N's.

The lamps on all the 2017 variants are correctly facing forwards.

This isn't a deal breaker and is easily rectified.

One of Hornby's best model to date !

[bigherb]

1 hour ago, mattingleycustom said:

The only error I can see with 21C7 is the three lamps above the bufferbeam are all pointing skywards (35024 is the same), other than that it's pretty good.

 

Did the earlier release: 21C3 Royal Mail have this error?

 

Glenn

Yes to varying degrees.

 

 

[Graham_Muz]

My review of R3717 21c7 in SR wartime black can be read here https://southern-railway.com/2021/05/15/the-Hornby-bulleid-merchant-navy-goes-wartime-black-as-r3717-21c7-aberdeen-commonwealth/

 

[Bulleidboy100]

My 21C7 arrived today from Model Railways Direct this morning - lovely looking loco - needs etched plates.

[Calidore]

Nice review and photos, Muz. Incidentally I think the left-hand example in your front end photos (21C8) is my favourite form of the air-smoothed MN. The original-shaped cowling around the bufferbeam and cylinders, upper smokebox cowl, and short blended deflectors. Just the right balance of elegance and brutishness.

[Graham_Muz]

8 minutes ago, Calidore said:

Nice review and photos, Muz. Incidentally I think the left-hand example in your front end photos (21C8) is my favourite form of the air-smoothed MN. The original-shaped cowling around the bufferbeam and cylinders, upper smokebox cowl, and short blended deflectors. Just the right balance of elegance and brutishness.

I have a Millholme kit on the go that will be finished with the short flared and blended deflectors as the kit has the parts as an option and is likely also to end up as No.8

For a quick front end change to No.7 I will probably go with the standard length deflectors, both for variety but also easier to do when starting with the Hornby model. 

[mattingleycustom]

18 hours ago, Bulleidboy100 said:

My 21C7 arrived today from Model Railways Direct this morning - lovely looking loco - needs etched plates.

... and while you're at it, the roundel on the smokebox looks better in etched brass too

 

Glenn

[Calidore]

The production model of 35022 is different from the artwork which has been shown throughout (and which is still on the Hornby website). It was advertised with the later cutaway arrangements around the bufferbeam and cylinder cowling, but the model has full cowling like East Asiatic Company. Pics on the Olivia’s website.

 

’22 is the one I’ve been waiting for, and I was on the point of ordering one without seeing the photos, but this just shows you don’t always know what you’re getting!

Edited May 16, 2021 by Calidore

[Francis deWeck]

On 03/01/2020 at 00:18, jools1959 said:

I’m going to wade through all the previous comments but I think the rebuilt Merchant Navy is in need of a serious upgrade as it must be over 13 years old by now.  I know there were issues with the chimney and smokebox door plus no steps by the front buffers or cylinder drain cocks.

 

I know that these are petty but when your paying £130+ for a model, it would be nice to have these right.

As long as they don't 'upgrade' the trailing bogie; for me the 'Re-built Merchant Navy' was the start of Hornby's 'improved' phase. The Spam Cans were similar, but I do admit there was room for improvement in this area. but lost it when the fixed bogie was applied to an otherwise well designed Rebuilt BB. However, this argument is somewhat futile, I'm afraid.

[Right Away]

6 hours ago, Calidore said:

The production model of 35022 is different from the artwork which has been shown throughout (and which is still on the Hornby website). It was advertised with the later cutaway arrangements around the bufferbeam and cylinder cowling, but the model has full cowling like East Asiatic Company. Pics on the Olivia’s website.

 

’22 is the one I’ve been waiting for, and I was on the point of ordering one without seeing the photos, but this just shows you don’t always know what you’re getting!

Also, Hatton’s photos of No 35022 “in the flesh” show the nameplates with a red ground whereas the artwork shows them with a black ground. These colours were changed (and re-changed) during the ‘50s, officially reverting back to red towards the end of the decade, although there were examples of rebuilds wearing nameplates still with a black ground in the ‘60s.

From a modelling perspective, the printed red nameplates look (to me) rather garish and appear smarter in black, unless etched plates are used.

Having said that, Hornby would appear to have got No 35022 practically  spot on, depicting it as running between 1952-3 with full casing, “red” nameplate and BR green livery, having just been repainted straight from Malachite (she never carried BR blue (Bullied Power - A J Fry)

 

The purists amongst us might wish to note No 35022 spent a considerable time undergoing testing at Rugby and over the Carlisle-Hellifield section during this time. For a few months in early 1953, a single blastpipe was fitted.

Being an early candidate for rebuilding and noting these considerations, the engine is perhaps not the most “chronologically flexible” member of the class for the modeller who has a strict discipline of what runs where and when.

Edited May 16, 2021 by Right Away
Clarification

[sagaguy]

Arrived today,another stunning model from Hornby.

 

   Ray.

[Right Away]

On 16/05/2021 at 18:02, Right Away said:

 

......... from a modelling perspective, the printed red nameplates look (to me) rather garish and appear smarter in black, unless etched plates are used .......

 

Oh dear, it looks like Humble Pie (not the band) time!

Having just received No 29; I can confirm the red ground printed nameplates are very good indeed. Well done Hornby.

[Garethp8873]

My supplier @AGR Model Store has two of 21C7 left in stock.

[mattingleycustom]

On 16/05/2021 at 13:18, Calidore said:

The production model of 35022 is different from the artwork which has been shown throughout (and which is still on the Hornby website). It was advertised with the later cutaway arrangements around the bufferbeam and cylinder cowling, but the model has full cowling like East Asiatic Company. Pics on the Olivia’s website.

 

’22 is the one I’ve been waiting for, and I was on the point of ordering one without seeing the photos, but this just shows you don’t always know what you’re getting!

 

I would just get a knife and cut the cylinder cowling off.

 

The majority of Hornby's R3115 34001 Exeter models came complete with an errant AWS box above the bufferbeam which the prototype definitely didn't carry as it was rebuilt at least 2 years before AWS came out, I just cut them off and renamed them to the one's I wanted.

 

Glenn

[sparky66]

Anyone got their preorder of 21C7 from Kernow yet? I can see it's been in stock there for a few days but I've had no notification that mine has been dispatched.

[Dunsignalling]

12 minutes ago, sparky66 said:

Anyone got their preorder of 21C7 from Kernow yet? I can see it's been in stock there for a few days but I've had no notification that mine has been dispatched.

Dunno about 21c7, but I received the despatch email for my 35029 a couple of hours ago.

 

AIUI, they send out models in the sequence the orders were placed, so that may affect how soon yours will be on the way.

 

John

Edited May 19, 2021 by Dunsignalling

[Graham_Muz]

Kernow have received a large Hornby delivery today slightly later than anticipated. All pre-orders for Merchant Navy’s of all versions will be dispatched as soon as possible. 

[craigymace4]

3 hours ago, sparky66 said:

Anyone got their preorder of 21C7 from Kernow yet? I can see it's been in stock there for a few days but I've had no notification that mine has been dispatched.

Still waiting for mine too. The wait is killing me, especially having seen everyone else's pics haha!

[mattingleycustom]

Cheltenham Model Centre showing R3861 Belgian Marine as available to order

 

Glenn

[ed 66 plant]

Have had notification from Kernow that my pre ordered 35029 has been despatched.

I have read thro, all my info. on tenders but cannot find dates for the stacking of the 3 vacuum cylinders on Series 2 , 5100 G tenders. I note they were stacked on seies 1 tenders as well.

Does anybody know?

regards,Ed