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I cannot understand this. I was surfing a well known Hornby Retailer's website after I got a mailshot from them and I found that they were selling the two latest Green unrebuilt Merchant Navy class locos for £40 below recommended retail ( "Ellerman Lines" and "Holland America LIne"). What is going on, it wasn't Amazon?

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26 minutes ago, cbrooks122000 said:

I cannot understand this. I was surfing a well known Hornby Retailer's website after I got a mailshot from them and I found that they were selling the two latest Green unrebuilt Merchant Navy class locos for £40 below recommended retail ( "Ellerman Lines" and "Holland America LIne"). What is going on, it wasn't Amazon?


I’ve also seen a few places selling them for £150. Not sure if it’s two fingers up at Hornby for all the recent goings-on, or something else, but it’s odd either way.

 

I’m back at home for the first time in a good long while, so will be going to get mine in person from the Cornish outpost in Guildford at the end of the week. £161 and able to see the model at the point of purchase is good enough for me.

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31 minutes ago, Calidore said:


I’ve also seen a few places selling them for £150. Not sure if it’s two fingers up at Hornby for all the recent goings-on, or something else, but it’s odd either way.

 

I’m back at home for the first time in a good long while, so will be going to get mine in person from the Cornish outpost in Guildford at the end of the week. £161 and able to see the model at the point of purchase is good enough for me.

I paid £139.95 for the Holland America Line, it arrived this morning and is perfect

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11 minutes ago, cbrooks122000 said:

I paid £139.95 for the Holland America Line, it arrived this morning and is perfect

That is a good price point.

The lowest I've seen these models (Not R3861 Belgian Marine) is £152.99 postage included.

Incidentally, did the price you paid include p+p?

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56 minutes ago, Black 5 Bear said:

That is a good price point.

The lowest I've seen these models (Not R3861 Belgian Marine) is £152.99 postage included.

Incidentally, did the price you paid include p+p?

It would have been free if I accepted the 48 hour option. I added the additional cost for First Class. That is what surprised me, the cheapest I had seen it for was £152.99. I wouldn't have normally bought it, but it was too good an offer to refuse. I am glad I did, it is a really nice model. 

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Some magazine reviews suggest the lower three headlamps can be easily “tweaked” into the correct position.

Has anyone had any success with this?

Also, it would appear that No 35017 has the Stones steam generator visible beneath the cab, whereas strictly it was on the last 10 engines (Series 3) that this equipment was fitted in the lowered position and thus became visible. Possibly, just a simple task to remove if desired.
 

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12 hours ago, Right Away said:

Some magazine reviews suggest the lower three headlamps can be easily “tweaked” into the correct position.

Has anyone had any success with this?

Also, it would appear that No 35017 has the Stones steam generator visible beneath the cab, whereas strictly it was on the last 10 engines (Series 3) that this equipment was fitted in the lowered position and thus became visible. Possibly, just a simple task to remove if desired.
 

I put a credit card behind the lamp irons and gently prized them forwards.

it seems to have done the trick.

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Thanks abd968008; that would probably be as far as I’d want to risk “tweaking” things.

Ideally, removing those entire headlamps in order to place them correctly would be the answer but being uncertain if they would just pop out (like many separately fitted details annoyingly do - but shouldn’t), it might be best to leave them alone for the time being. These are relatively small items, on what is a very striking locomotive front, but any irregularity becomes most prominent. 

Many have expressed surprise that this issue had not been picked up on pre-production samples. A superbly accurate model in mostly every other respect, yet something so glaringly obvious passes scrutiny....  

 

 

 

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Progress on forward dating my @Hornby 21c3 Royal Mail to 1947 condition.
Cowl fitted and painted, new lamp irons, smokebox dart and etched round fitted. 
Etched deflectors  painted and lined now awaiting a coat of varnish before final fitting. 573C249B-AA66-488E-AE6F-98A0A9CECE59.jpeg.ee2cefb7909ee60291491aa98b13f7c4.jpeg

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I bought the blue 'East Asiatic Company' from Amanda Jane (AJM), and it arrived on Friday last. It looks superb.

I have been working on the resin MN from Golden Arrow Productions and that is nearing completion. Something about the cab didn't look quite right, and I worked out when sitting besdie the Hornby model that the cab side windows appear to be a little too deep, reducing the sheet metal of the lower cab sides slightly. I intend to add some plastic micro strip to improve the appearance a bit. Here is the GAP product, soon to be named 'British India Line', on a modified Hornby rebuilt MN chassis, side by side with the new Hornby product.

Amusingly, I have duplicates of several MNs, with a sort of 'before and after' theme, so, for example, 'East Asiatic Company' exists in my collection twice, as here in blue and as rebuilt, in BR green.

 

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38 minutes ago, SRman said:

I bought the blue 'East Asiatic Company' from Amanda Jane (AJM), and it arrived on Friday last. It looks superb.

I have been working on the resin MN from Golden Arrow Productions and that is nearing completion. Something about the cab didn't look quite right, and I worked out when sitting besdie the Hornby model that the cab side windows appear to be a little too deep, reducing the sheet metal of the lower cab sides slightly. I intend to add some plastic micro strip to improve the appearance a bit. Here is the GAP product, soon to be named 'British India Line', on a modified Hornby rebuilt MN chassis, side by side with the new Hornby product.

Amusingly, I have duplicates of several MNs, with a sort of 'before and after' theme, so, for example, 'East Asiatic Company' exists in my collection twice, as here in blue and as rebuilt, in BR green.

 

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Looking really good; “British India Line” even having 6000 gal tender No 3346 attached, as fitted from October ‘52 (following the brief stint with the coal weighing example, No 3343, which had been converted earlier that year.)

 

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46 minutes ago, Right Away said:

 

Looking really good; “British India Line” even having 6000 gal tender No 3346 attached, as fitted from October ‘52 (following the brief stint with the coal weighing example, No 3343, which had been converted earlier that year.)

 


Thanks for the compliments. I was very careful with the choice of name/number to go with the 6000 gal tender. I consulted the Locomotive Profile book which lists all of the tender swaps for each locomotive - I wanted it in roughly 1954 condition. Tender 3343 certainly got around! :laugh:

p.s. The bent ladder on the tender was due to me putting it down on the table while I patted one of our cats. She promptly turned around and tripped straight over the tender. :jester:

 

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A quick snap of 21c3 Royal Mail Merchant Navy now forward dated to May 1947 condition with newly fitted and freshly painted standard smoke deflectors see here for21c3_10.jpg.23d361b80766256fdb50ebaed2cda0e5.jpg

the process https://southern-railway.com/2021/06/05/workbench-witterings-10-forward-dating-Hornby-bulleid-merchant-navy-21c7-to-1947-condition/?amp 

 

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4 hours ago, Graham_Muz said:

Pricey chocolate anyone…

 

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Those look absolutely superb, Graham. As Morcambe always said to Wise, "You can't see the join!" :good:

p.s. Me want!! :man_in_love_mini:

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35017 - Belgium Marine arrived this morning.

 

This model has both a new tender tooling (compared to the first batches) and the re-sighted safety valve positions.

 

 

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The tenders are a delight on these models. The pipework is very fine indeed.

 

I also noticed yesterday that the coupling rods / connecting rods feature microscopic oil filler points on the top as part of the metal rod casting. I don't think I've ever seen that before -- really exceptional.

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8 hours ago, JSpencer said:

35017 - Belgium Marine arrived this morning.

 

This model has both a new tender tooling (compared to the first batches) and the re-sighted safety valve positions.

 

 

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Same tooling on R3649 Ellerman Lines.

These are so good I've bought all four regular releases this year.

Just waiting on the forthcoming Hornby Dublo General Steam Navigation and Elder Fyffes Line.

Fantastic !

 

 

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Same tooling on R3649 Ellerman Lines.

These are so good I've bought all four regular released this year.

Just waiting on the forthcoming Hornby Dublo General Steam Navigation and Elder Fyffes Line.

Fantastic !

 

 

 

I've not seen a 17 in the flesh yet but is the tooling identical to 29?  I am trying to tell from images if the stones generator (under the cab left hand side) is in the lower series 3 position as opposed to being correctly mounted higher and behind the side sheet.

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1 minute ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

I've not seen a 17 in the flesh yet but is the tooling identical to 29?  I am trying to tell from images if the stones generator (under the cab left hand side) is in the lower series 3 position as opposed to being correctly mounted higher and behind the side sheet.

I'll have to take a look on my return home this evening and provide you with some photos.

Will get back to you.

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10 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said:

 

I've not seen a 17 in the flesh yet but is the tooling identical to 29?  I am trying to tell from images if the stones generator (under the cab left hand side) is in the lower series 3 position as opposed to being correctly mounted higher and behind the side sheet.

Unfortunately I can't easily do a comparative photo at the moment, but I'd say they were pretty much identical.  The Stones generator might be ~0.5 mm higher on 17, but no more than that (it's surprisingly tricky to look at both at exactly the same angle...). 

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