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Thanks Simon, yes that's the idea. No two wagons would ever really be identical colour wise, and Cambrian wagons seem to be a veritable 50 shades of grey on the same wagons.

 

Here's the latest to the collection, not strictly a Cambrian Railways Co wagon, but a Private owner from along the coast, though I had originally intended to represent a Cambrian Ballast wagon with it. The basis is a Hornby 3 plank RTR wagon, the first Hornby item I have bought new in over 20 years, and within 5 minutes of opening the box it's destruction had commenced! 

 

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First off, goodbye nasty moulded underframe (though as nasty mouldings go they've got a fair wedge of detail in there). Replaced with a Cambrian models underframe. The wagon prototype was not in fact a Gloucester product, but I have no photo showing the correct axleboxes so I have decided to live with that for now. In future I will do one with the proper details etched W irons and brake gear, but for now I wanted to stick to using plastic items. 

 

By the way I passed on making it a ballast wagon as I didn't have the necessary single wheel brake gear handy - I suspect a Ratio LNWR underframe with shortened solebars would do nicely, another future option. 

 

I took off the ends of the body diagonals from the solebars, and replaced the RCH style brake gear (which is way too short and would easily do for 14mm wheels!) with a spare from a Cambrian 2 plank dropside, the opposite side has no brakes, no idea if that's prototypical or not, and nobody can prove me wrong so I went with it! 

 

I've removed the livery and added a dusting of assorted greys to the interior to tone down the Hornby factory maroon, and sloshed some black into the mix to make base coat on the outside - the final livery will be black with white lettering proudly proclaiming ownership as 'Tonfannau Granite Quarries, Towyn, Merioneth'. 

And that's where we stand so far. Next up, more paint, some buffers and some transfers. 

 

 

 

 

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Today's plaything, a Cambrian 10T open from another Cambrian Models C111 kit, modified as follows:

 

Solebars have had the makers and number plates removed from the front, axleboxes and W irons gone too and the backs thinned at the ends to accept etched replacements. Plates will be replaced with etched ones. 

 

W Irons replaced with these  and set up with straight keep plates. Buffers and axleboxes replaced with 3D printed items which are pre production Coast Line Models ones, MJT buffer heads were used but are not sprung. 

 

Couplings are these with markits chain. 

 

Transfers are the test version of these but heavily distressed. 

 

Just need to finish weathering the interior and it's another wagon done.

 

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I agree that no two wagons should ever be quite the same shade. Even if we assume they were all originally painted in the exact same shade (which they were not, certainly in pre-group days) the weathering and wear they received would soon change that.

 

Your work is excellent. Hard to believe at times that it's in such a small scale as 4mm. You are doing the Cambrian proud.

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Thanks Poggy, I'm certainly trying!

 

I've had word that some 3D printed bits are en route too, so a couple more different wagons will soon be added to the fold. 

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Now that my range of transfers are available I need the pin ups that will advertise them... 3 more Cambrian kits on the workbench: 997 a 2 plank dropside, a 4 plank open with no identity as yet and barely started Dropside No. 927. 

 

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Now for something different, that didn't start out as a plastic kit! 

 

3D Printed Loco Coal Wagon and Single Bolster, joining the ranks on the works in progress bench!

 

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The 4 plank from the previous shot has now acquired some running gear:

 

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A little LNW diversion, a Bill Bedford D32 van, using my own W irons as I didn't particularly like the very spindly and very soft brass sprung ones supplied. Cambrian W irons are near Identical to LNWR anyway. The simplest possible form of torsion beam compensation is used. 

 

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An LNW D1 and a Cambrian lime wagon are also in progress.

 

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Tonfanau Granite Quarry has also acquired a wagon:

 

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The timber trucks have been breeding too:

 

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Simply beautiful collection of wagons you are building up there.  Pleasure to see them.

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Nearly a year without updates! Yikes! 

 

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That's one I did earlier, and this is one I did just now:

 

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Cambrian Gunpowder Van test sample, and before it gets asked, yes I have made a GWR Iron mink version too!

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Very fine modelling. I love the weathering. Always good to see models of pre-grouping wagons. I will do one or two Cambrian wagons as they got around with loads of slate at the beginning of the 1900's.

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Looking awesome.

 

These the iMaterialise resin or Shapeways BHDA?

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It's BHDA, i.Materialise can't do the one piece wagons because of the thin bits in the underframes.

 

The body of this is IM though:

 

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The test build from the new kit I've put together. 

 

The GPV has had tweaks made and should be tougher, BHDA is more flexible than it used to be these days, which helps with not snapping thin details but means the W irons are all drunken, so they've had to be beefed up. 

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Hmm, I'm continually suffering from cognitive dissonance seeing your HDA prints.

 

You (we) know the results I had when helping to trial the material (seen in a thread here somewhere) and they made a pigs ear of everything....yet your latest creations are beautifull.

 

I want another go at it but don't want more order cancellations and products being reduced to 'first to try' bull crap. Sick of Shapeways sometimes rejecting orders for the stupidest of things; my own orders and customers' orders.

 

Really unsure what to do here.

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I've not always had perfect results from them, there is still a high failure rate which is why these models are not available publicly. Not as bad as some other materials and suppliers though! 

 

The GPV has some staggering fine detail on the underframe, but you can see here that has also resulted in a large amount of warp:

 

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I hope that the mk2 version with thickened solebars, W Irons, brake lever and headstocks will cure that, also the door on this side was hollowed out to maintain a constant thickness across the body length - the other side the door is solid all the way back flush with the rest of the side

 

I've designed a lot of single piece wagons, they seem to work well in BHDA overall. I just need Shapeways to make supports available to customers before I can sell them!  

 

Some more or the collection:

 

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I'm struggling to see the warp to be honest. Looks good from here.

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Lovely work with the gunpowder van (on the whole thread actually!) Is the inner V hanger broken on the van in that last shot?

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Lovely work with the gunpowder van (on the whole thread actually!) Is the inner V hanger broken on the van in that last shot?

Now I may only be 22, but damn, would I like to have your eyes!

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Lovely work with the gunpowder van (on the whole thread actually!) Is the inner V hanger broken on the van in that last shot?

 

Yes, knife slipped de-spruing! 

 

I'm struggling to see the warp to be honest. Looks good from here.

 

Once you see it you can't unsee it! 

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Well. The solebar and door is slightly 'banannery' yet we are talking slight. Is not easy for me to see.

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I've not always had perfect results from them, there is still a high failure rate which is why these models are not available publicly. Not as bad as some other materials and suppliers though! 

 

The GPV has some staggering fine detail on the underframe, but you can see here that has also resulted in a large amount of warp:

 

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I hope that the mk2 version with thickened solebars, W Irons, brake lever and headstocks will cure that, also the door on this side was hollowed out to maintain a constant thickness across the body length - the other side the door is solid all the way back flush with the rest of the side

 

I've designed a lot of single piece wagons, they seem to work well in BHDA overall. I just need Shapeways to make supports available to customers before I can sell them!  

 

Some more or the collection:

 

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If you get around to doing a registration plate for the Jones wagon it's GWR No.50164 of December 1901, and the Glos owners plate is no.37060, at least until 1908.  :-)

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Highly impressive, Alan. Keep it going!

 

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