D6775 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) After some pictures of some of the Highland Rail Green & Cream MK2's, particularly the ones not done by Bachmann for positioning of names etc. I've managed to acquire two spare TSO's. The list I have is: BAILECHAUL 9388 BSO Bachmann (Highlander) BALMACARA 9385 BSO Bachmann (MR) BRAHAN SEER 9414 BSO CAPERCAILZIE 5212 TSO Bachmann (MR) CLAN DONALD 5191 TSO CLAN FRASER 5154 TSO CLAN MACINTOSH 5234 TSO(T) CLAN MACKENZIE 5166 TSO Bachmann (MR) CLAN MCLEOD 5293 TSO Bachmann (Highlander) CLAN MUNRO 5132 TSO CLAN ROSS 5139 TSO CORRIEMOILLIE 5230 TSO(T) Bachmann (MR) HEBREDIAN 6300 DMU I'm pretty sure at least one of the TSO's above is a TSO(T) as well. Any pictures or formation info greatly recieved. Cheers, Al Edited to correct a number error and alter a TSO to TSO(T). Edited March 4, 2015 by D6775 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hi Al, The phrase 'Rare as hens teeth' comes to mind when searching for images of these coaches.... The full set of names are available as decals from Railtec. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6775 Posted March 2, 2015 Author Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hence I've tried my luck here!! That's the list of names of the set of Fox Transfers I have here. Lee (blueeighties on here) has done Hebredian for me last year and I've got all the Bachmann issue plus 2 extra TSO's to re-name, also got an option on another BSO, but we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Clan Fraser is at the Lincolnshire Wolds Railway and as I'm working on the Brake van I'll get some snaps for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted March 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Hi Al, Yes - In the 14 years since I started Scottish Modellers on Yahoo groups we have only found photos of 4 of them. 9385 is at Swithland on the GCR. https://www.flickr.com/photos/45726467@N02/6929015925 5154 is on the Linclonshire Wolds Railway (as noted above) 6300 is at Ruddington Barry Steam Railway https://www.flickr.com/photos/dc-7c/6866471481 There also seems to be a 'Mock Hebridean' coach at another railway centre but I can't find the reference at the moment. 5381 is on the Wensleydale Railway https://www.flickr.com/photos/darlo2009/15167752387 Thanks Edited March 2, 2015 by Scottish Modeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 You've made an error on the SO(T) coaches : 5230 CORRIEMOILLIE 5234 CLAN MACKINTOSH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hi Al, The phrase 'Rare as hens teeth' comes to mind when searching for images of these coaches.... The full set of names are available as decals from Railtec. Thanks We've got photos of a couple of these vehicles in the late 2000s at Tyseley which we can dig out and share where the numbers and names are still visible. Obviously they are faded by this point but they still retain their original markings (which is what we used when making the transfer set). There have, over the years, also been other photos of these vehicles around the web but like Phil mentions, they are few and far between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 As promised here are some of a very sorry looking Clan Fraser. If needs be I can try and get some interior shots (do'nt think its been mucked about too much) as back again tomorrow assuming I've refreshed myself after the Hawkwind concert in Sheffield last night. Any other "Hawkfans" out there as once again awesome show with the set including stuff from all the era's. Motorway City and Shot down in the Night to start and finish, irronically first time I ever saw them back in the 80's they were in the show too. Focus were a pretty useful support outfit too Have to work on her ladyship to let me head off to Download again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 That reminds me, one of these rakes ended up in Aberdeen on three or four consecutive days and it took some working out why From memory the winter timetable had commenced and one of the required rakes (ex-NSE) was still missing, but had just commenced inspection at Inverness, then entered service Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6775 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Thanks for all the info guys. Steve, if you can find the pictures of the Tyseley ones that would be great, I had forgotten about them, passed them a number of times on my trips to Solihull for physio a a couple of years ago. Jacob, if you can get phots of the other side of the position of the name & number that would be great. Looks like CLAN FRASER will be one of my spare TSO's. Not bothered about the interiors, I'll not be going that far with them, just re-name/numbering! If anyone can find any picture of the third brake, BRAHAN SEER, that could be useful. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railtec-models Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Always happy to help. Here are a couple of shots from August 2008 which show the markings in perhaps slightly better condition. Sc5212 was in a difficult position to get any kind of decent shot, but the position of the markings can clearly be seen in Sc5193. If you need transfers for these, just let us know. We'd make sure to include the actual vehicle end markings for added authenticity as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Since you asked I can but oblige. Awkard site to access due toan embankment, so best I can do till moved again. Spoke to the carriage restorers inside OK and needs external TLC before running again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted March 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the info guys. Steve, if you can find the pictures of the Tyseley ones that would be great, I had forgotten about them, passed them a number of times on my trips to Solihull for physio a a couple of years ago. Jacob, if you can get phots of the other side of the position of the name & number that would be great. Looks like CLAN FRASER will be one of my spare TSO's. Not bothered about the interiors, I'll not be going that far with them, just re-name/numbering! If anyone can find any picture of the third brake, BRAHAN SEER, that could be useful. Al. Hi Al, There was a full set of photos on Fotopic at one time - lost or just forgotten? Don't know. Anyway, they have not reappeared anywhere that I can find. https://www.flickr.com/photos/taysider64/16584421362 Link to photo showing rake which comments state include Brahan Seer. I've also noted that 5234 "Clan Mackintosh" and 5230 "Corriemollie" were both classified SO(T) rather than TSO(T) as they only had 2+1 seating. Thanks Edited March 5, 2015 by Scottish Modeller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emac Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Can I add these photos found on the flickr WWW although may not be detailed enough https://www.flickr.com/photos/lickeybanker/11580395145 https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/2304566483/in/set-72157604133250945 https://www.flickr.com/photos/trevor-plackett/7598992456 https://www.flickr.com/photos/neil_harvey_railway_photos/8636308179 https://www.flickr.com/photos/neil_harvey_railway_photos/8636308193/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrc31176/13816078245 https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrc31176/13816078485/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/roddymacphee/9619021739 https://www.flickr.com/photos/24736216@N07/3303044001/in/album-72157614128051127/lightbox/ Edited March 6, 2015 by emac 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Can I add these photos found on the flickr WWW although may not be detailed enough https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/2304566483/in/set-72157604133250945 Is that some kind of DMU or observation car at the front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 Is that some kind of DMU or observation car at the front? Hi Bennyboy, Yes - This was:- BR 56356 Class 101 DMU: Driving Trailer Composite Lavatory built 1958 http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=3060 Gives details of the real thing. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 198120 Posted December 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Hi, Attached are 3 photos of 5191, just after it had moved down to Tyseley from Longtown. If you look at the photo with the name on you can see the initials JC above the 'D' in Donald. This the painters initials, his name was Jim Crow, from Inverness depot. He lived up in Invergordan. He told me the paint was actually mixed by Dulux. Neil Edited December 9, 2015 by 198120 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I just thought I'd give a heads up that Rails of Sheffield are selling the Bachmann Green & Cream Mk2 coaches from the Highlander set separately if anyone is after some. https://railsofsheffield.com/Bachmann-oo-pair-of-mk2-green-cream-passenger-coaches-30-048-coaches-Bachmann-JJJA27103.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted March 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Hi Bennyboy, Yes - This was:- BR 56356 Class 101 DMU: Driving Trailer Composite Lavatory built 1958 http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=3060 This is part of the Bachmann 2016 releases: 39-005 BR Mark 2A + Class 101 DTCL ‘Highlander Pack’ with Passenger figures Edit to bring forward the release date by 90 years! Edited March 6, 2016 by ruggedpeak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted March 5, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2016 This is part of the Bachmann 2106 releases: 39-005 BR Mark 2A + Class 101 DTCL ‘Highlander Pack’ with Passenger figures Hi Tony, No surprise there! Other than the anticipated price that is..... Hattons price is £75.00 for Mk2 Coach and CL101 DTLC with passengers. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted March 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2016 Wonder who will make a sound decoder including the sound of bagpipes being played at Kyle station? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2016 This is part of the Bachmann 2106 releases: I know some people have complained of lengthy delays at Bachmann but that takes the biscuit! Good to see a few more images of these Mk2s come to light. Considering they were running in the later days of class 37 operation it's a surprise there are not more out there. Despite the remote locations the locos were "bashed" quite regularly so someone somewhere should have a lot more photos of the stock. The internally-modified coaches were not renumbered which is perhaps a surprise at a time when almost any change of significant generated a new number in order for TOPS to distinguish the types. The 2+1 seats were fitted, as I understand it, to allow more space for the very significant number of backpacks carried in summer and which the owners were most reluctant to have placed out of sight in the guard's van. I managed a couple of trips (sadly without camera) in their latter days and with 156s already taking over some duties. Kyle - Inverness on the afternoon train with the sun lowering behind and over the water seemed a fitting finale to locomotive haulage in the Highlands and all six coaches were comfortably filled. A few weeks later two-car 156s took over with no luggage space, tightly-packed 2+2 seating and vociferous complaints of overcrowding ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulH37 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 The internally-modified coaches were not renumbered which is perhaps a surprise at a time when almost any change of significant generated a new number in order for TOPS to distinguish the types. The 2+1 seats were fitted, as I understand it, to allow more space for the very significant number of backpacks carried in summer and which the owners were most reluctant to have placed out of sight in the guard's van. The coaches which had 2+1 seating were not modified for the Kyle services, but were built with that seating arrangement on a separate lot number. They were classified SO rather than TSO and were originally used as dining cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted March 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2016 . A few weeks later two-car 156s took over with no luggage space, tightly-packed 2+2 seating and vociferous complaints of overcrowding ..... Change it to "services started with 158's with no luggage space, tightly-packed 2+2 seating and vociferous complaints of overcrowding" and it sounds just like the Borders Railway opening! Plus ca change..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoovernut Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Afternoon all. I see from above the list regarding mk2s and names but can someone please confirm what an average rake would consist of. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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