RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) So nothing to titivate and froth/discuss. Or was there? 1 minute 8seconds the Coronation passes a folder labelled "GW M/W" - or was it. Let's have a go at what that means. I would place a substantial sum of money on exactly what it means but as I don't want to spoil the fun I'm saying nothing until further clues appear. However there are two nice things apparent from that visual hint - firstly that The Engine Shed is creeping back towards the art of dropping subtle hints (and hopefully won't again be neutered by the new ancien regime for having done so). And secondly it is hopefully a confirmation that a project is well under way and the fact that it is sufficiently advanced to allow hints to be shown would suggest that it started some time ago and has survived the arrival of the new ancien regime. Early samples at the Warley show perchance - how appropriate that might be. As I normally tend to deal in numerical rather than alphabetical clues is it too much to hope that this project, which as I have said appears to exist - hence the hint, might be accompanied by a complementary item that's worth a at least a (censored, but knowledge of pre-decimal currency might help). So there you go - several clues as to what the hint might be and let the frothing commence as I run for an umbrella. Edited June 23, 2018 by The Stationmaster 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Yes. The "GW M/W" was pointed out by someone earlier. I was thinking Manning Wardle, but I don't think they had any. Nothing significant and I doubt it would be a CM&DPLR 0-6-0ST/PT. Midland/Western as in carriage prefixes? Pre decimal? L/S/D... Manor. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidmouth Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 social media does need very careful management . Its reach is fabulous for spreading the word but that can be good or bad . I can see the issue with the image . That imperfection with the wheel, your eye is drawn to it. Easy correction at photography stage I would have thought looking at the J36 , cast body , presumably Mazak . Should I go there ....... (probably not but given Hornby's recent record with the stuff it does put me off a little) Re the Coronation, I'm still struggling with the need to do this model again . I had one and in the end sold it on . Nice model, just never sat well on my layout 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 So Freedom of Speech is not an option then? I give praise where it is due - I have both emailed Hornby, and verbally thanked Simon Kohler at Glasgow, and mentioned it in other fora for offering the J36. We can all interpret things differently - I stand by my comments. I think a lot of it is in how you say it . The internet is not terribly good at sarcasm 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted June 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2018 social media does need very careful management . Its reach is fabulous for spreading the word but that can be good or bad . I can see the issue with the image . That imperfection with the wheel, your eye is drawn to it. Easy correction at photography stage I would have thought looking at the J36 , cast body , presumably Mazak . Should I go there ....... (probably not but given Hornby's recent record with the stuff it does put me off a little) Re the Coronation, I'm still struggling with the need to do this model again . I had one and in the end sold it on . Nice model, just never sat well on my layout I’ve got a red Coronation , Duchess of Gloucester . Not sure there’s enough here to prompt me to replace it, but a blue one might be tempting. Not on initial release, but let’s see what the price settles down to. I think this is an odd choice of re release, I can’t see that the old model was all that bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 So nothing to titivate and froth/discuss. Or was there? 1 minute 8seconds the Coronation passes a folder labelled "GW M/W" - or was it. Let's have a go at what that means. As I normally tend to deal in numerical rather than alphabetical clues is it too much to hope that this project, which as I have said appears to exist - hence the hint, might be accompanied by a complementary item that's worth a at least a (censored, but knowledge of pre-decimal currency might help). So there you go - several clues as to what the hint might be and let the frothing commence as I run for an umbrella. Apols for selective quoting. I guess it could be a 'H" - possibly a restaurant car? Pre-decimal currency: perhaps not the obvious. Tanner? Ha'penny? Guinea? Quid? Bob? Shilling? Half Crown? Farthing? Sovereign? I wondered if there's a telegraph code link but nothing obvious. I give up Mike - too hard for me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I think Hilda Ogden was talking to the barmaid in the pub. She's a right one. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Seemed like a pretty substantial blog update to me. not entirely sure what people are managing to argue about here... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 It's a GW Manor. No doubt about it. a non-alternative fact, if you will.... Next riddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) I’ve got a red Coronation , Duchess of Gloucester . Not sure there’s enough here to prompt me to replace it, but a blue one might be tempting. Not on initial release, but let’s see what the price settles down to. I think this is an odd choice of re release, I can’t see that the old model was all that bad Will this one do you guv? photoshopped from and old one and Duchess wheels looks grand, the actual production model will be 6221 'Queen Elizabeth' which cannot lose. I'm also interested in how the new Nelson looks, hard act to follow after the excellent N15. Cheers pic edited, will remove if asked. Edited June 24, 2018 by robmcg 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I think this is an odd choice of re release, I can’t see that the old model was all that bad Especially as Queen Elizabeth has been done before. The only one not done of the 5 blue ones is Queen Mary, which is an obvious choice to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Islesy Posted June 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Some of us have been posting for several months to encourage,coax and cajole Hornby into reinstating The Engine Shed as its former self. This latest issue appears to show that Hornby have listened and that our efforts have had the desired effect. Now this.......You seem blithely to ignore the obvious and that is that its purpose is to let us in to the model development process and to encourage comment on what we as enthusiasts see.Comment should ideally be constructive and take into account that these are NOT the finished articles soon to be arriving.This I am sure you already know but it has not stopped you from making an the injudicious declamation that they should not have released such an image and then loftily insinuating that your standards are higher than the experienced members of this forum who have recently posted. You must also be aware that Hornby read what is posted on RMWeb. Indeed one of their number is...bravely...A forum member of some 18 months standing. Your post is hardly an encouragement to continue a meaningful dialogue. If Hornby show us images not to your taste on The Engine Shed either accept what you see warts and all or else don't bother to look if it offends your sensibilities. Most of us don't want another period of poor communication. Thanks for that slice of reality Ian, as you all should know, Engine Shed is meant to be a little more ‘raw’, by virtue of its subject matter. We have taken great pains to point out that there are areas with these EPs that still need to be ironed out. Yes, we could take great care to ensure that items are only presented when absolutely pristine, but who wants a Development blog that is overly sanitised, that goes against the whole point of the exercise? Best wishes, Paul 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted June 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2018 Thanks for that slice of reality Ian, as you all should know, Engine Shed is meant to be a little more ‘raw’, by virtue of its subject matter. We have taken great pains to point out that there are areas with these EPs that still need to be ironed out. Yes, we could take great care to ensure that items are only presented when absolutely pristine, but who wants a Development blog that is overly sanitised, that goes against the whole point of the exercise? Best wishes, Paul And thankyou for giving us an ‘official’ view. Most of us are absolutely delighted to get development news of any or all your upcoming models, and in the raw is exactly how it needs to be. Surely we all know that the eventual release that we can buy will not have the warts etc the EPs may show - and if anyone has concerns about proportions or dimensions they can raise them with you now. Keep doing what you are doing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2018 Well done to Hornby for getting back to The Engine Shed. It's always nice to see what, or when, the stuff is coming. The funny part was when you made mention of the 'invite to Margate'. The last time I looked, Tesco had a huge superstore right opposite to Hornby... They must have popped in for a loaf of bread, and a pint of milk.... On a positive note, Hornby used to make Skalextric cars over there as well. Can I put in a request for a Lotus 88, and the Tyrell 6-wheeler? It'll look just right next to Bittern..... Happy modelling! Ian. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulwell Hall Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 So nothing to titivate and froth/discuss. Or was there? 1 minute 8seconds the Coronation passes a folder labelled "GW M/W" - or was it. Let's have a go at what that means. I would place a substantial sum of money on exactly what it means but as I don't want to spoil the fun I'm saying nothing until further clues appear. However there are two nice things apparent from that visual hint - firstly that The Engine Shed is creeping back towards the art of dropping subtle hints (and hopefully won't again be neutered by the new ancien regime for having done so). And secondly it is hopefully a confirmation that a project is well under way and the fact that it is sufficiently advanced to allow hints to be shown would suggest that it started some time ago and has survived the arrival of the new ancien regime. Early samples at the Warley show perchance - how appropriate that might be. As I normally tend to deal in numerical rather than alphabetical clues is it too much to hope that this project, which as I have said appears to exist - hence the hint, might be accompanied by a complementary item that's worth a at least a (censored, but knowledge of pre-decimal currency might help). So there you go - several clues as to what the hint might be and let the frothing commence as I run for an umbrella. Tanner Oner? Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Tanner Oner? Gerry They'd better hurry!!! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/129125-oo-gauge-gwr-mogul-and-prairie/ Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2018 They'd better hurry!!! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/129125-oo-gauge-gwr-mogul-and-prairie/ Cheers from Oz, Peter C. Remember Hornby have form in playing their cards close to the chest....revealing intent late on in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 So nothing to titivate and froth/discuss. Or was there? 1 minute 8seconds the Coronation passes a folder labelled "GW M/W" - or was it. Let's have a go at what that means. I would place a substantial sum of money on exactly what it means but as I don't want to spoil the fun I'm saying nothing until further clues appear. However there are two nice things apparent from that visual hint - firstly that The Engine Shed is creeping back towards the art of dropping subtle hints (and hopefully won't again be neutered by the new ancien regime for having done so). And secondly it is hopefully a confirmation that a project is well under way and the fact that it is sufficiently advanced to allow hints to be shown would suggest that it started some time ago and has survived the arrival of the new ancien regime. Early samples at the Warley show perchance - how appropriate that might be. As I normally tend to deal in numerical rather than alphabetical clues is it too much to hope that this project, which as I have said appears to exist - hence the hint, might be accompanied by a complementary item that's worth a at least a (censored, but knowledge of pre-decimal currency might help). So there you go - several clues as to what the hint might be and let the frothing commence as I run for an umbrella. Half crowns were used to pay for the gas meter in a well known kids tv show. Ivor the Engine range confirmed! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2018 They'd better hurry!!! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/129125-oo-gauge-gwr-mogul-and-prairie/ Cheers from Oz, Peter C. I would hardly call that abortion of a GW large prairie any sort of competition for a properly researched model. If I was Dapol I wouldn't have had the nerve to show a CAD that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2018 I would hardly call that abortion of a GW large prairie any sort of competition for a properly researched model. If I was Dapol I wouldn't have had the nerve to show a CAD that bad. Very quiet on this since first announced. Was it just a place maker like Heljan did with their 47xx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2018 Having just watched the Princess Coronation video, I caught sight of what appears to be some Wills Finecast boxes. Tell us more, perchance? Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted June 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2018 Very quiet on this since first announced. Was it just a place maker like Heljan did with their 47xx. having looked forward to a Dapol prairie in 4mm, I hope that we will finally get to see it come to fruition. To be honest, I don't really mind which of either manufacturer finally makes it, as long as its worthy of the patience. What we don't need, is being fobbed off with a 25+ year old tooling, and a "GASP!" a brand new box! Caveat Emptor, and the wallet will stay shut. Cheers, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2018 Very quiet on this since first announced. Was it just a place maker like Heljan did with their 47xx. I suspect it might well have been Rob. But it needs so much work, far more than the 43XX, that it's hardly a surprise that it has gone quiet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2018 H could well be considering a re-introduction of the large prairie, a redacted loco they inherited from Airfix/Dapol and which has probably made them a good few honest bobs over the years. But to be honest I can't see them doing much more than the best upgrade they can manage on the old tooling; they are not in a position to spend speculate money on new stuff at the moment and a 'Railroad' type version at a reasonably low price to match the 14xx, which has a very similar history, and which could beat Dapol to the punch by being available fairly quickly, must look like an attractive proposition to them. I'd probably buy one if it can be brought in at under £60 or so. I have two Airfix bodies which share a chassis at the moment, and they are showing their age! Moulded handrails (not the end of the world and replaced many years ago on one body), crude crosshead, no cab detail, and very noisy, but the body is fundamentally accurate and captures the look well. Quieter, smoother, running with a modern mechanism, and some cab detail, would transform this old lady into a very attractive proposition! If the mech is kept forward of the cab, it could be the basis of a 43xx as well, but there is less chance of beating Dapol to it in this case. Dapol's proposed 43xx has not attracted the adverse comment that the 61xx/5101 CAD has, and one assumes that Dap are re-jiggerising the loco a bit and it will be delayed in consequence, allowing H an opportunity if they are quick off the mark and have no problems of their own developing it! This would mean that the Dap version, when it appears, would.have to be very much better than H's; we are perhaps talking about compensation, between the frames detail, and features capable of allowing a very much higher price point, a luxury model. And the 43xx would have to match; this would probably be a major spaniard in Dap's planning! All of which is complete and utter conjecture, spelt f r o t h, on my part!!! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted July 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 20, 2018 Latest Engine Shed is up: https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/hop-onboard-with-the-toad-brake-vans 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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