RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2019 Yes we are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2019 New editions up https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/hvc-open-day-class-156-more 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: New editions up https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/hvc-open-day-class-156-more No mention of a limited edition 4SUB or class 503 "modelled as they appear in the Margate Locomotive Storage facility" - or in any other condition - unfortunately. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Sad to see the state the 503 has deteriorated to. Hornby could do 1938/1956 "original" and "loop" variants with LMS, BR Green, BR Blue and BR Blue and Grey liveries. Yeah! It would have been nice to have some word on the expected arrival of the B2 and Ruston&Hornsby locos.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I'm somewhat surprised at the level of progress on the Princess Class with the current update photo. These pictures have been around since the original announcement was made in January this year Personally, I would rather it be right rather than rushed. I've got the feeling though, that Hornby are being a bit optimistic over the revised release date of Autumn 2019. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frond Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I found the comments made by Hornby a bit strange regarding the Princess Class. They state "As the model is expected later in the year there has not been a great deal to show you until now" and then show some old pictures . I would have thought that if the model is to be released in3-4 months time there would have been plenty to show us ! Makes you wonder if they put the wrong pictures in the article. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Frond said: I found the comments made by Hornby a bit strange regarding the Princess Class. They state "As the model is expected later in the year there has not been a great deal to show you until now" and then show some old pictures . I would have thought that if the model is to be released in3-4 months time there would have been plenty to show us ! Makes you wonder if they put the wrong pictures in the article. Whatever the reason, the pics show a very early stage in the design, tooling and production, especially given the variations announced. If release is planned for Autumn one would expect it to be at sample stage, or whatever those first tentative assembled models are called. We live in hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Perhaps a summer intern was given the task of putting a couple of paragraphs together and found the wrong picture? "Autumn" is only two or three months off so you'd expect to be seeing a livery/final pre-production sample by now, if they're going to get it on the boat by then! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I'm starting to think they just uploaded the wrong pics? The information certainly doesn't seem to match the photographs in question. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, MGR Hooper! said: I'm starting to think they just uploaded the wrong pics? The information certainly doesn't seem to match the photographs in question. Probably all part of the consequences of turning The Engine Shed into something very different from what it used to be and it's now in the hands of 'marketing' rather than the folk who knew what they were actually looking at and doing. And if that print (which is what it appears to be?) really does represent the current state of affairs then either they are going to be making unprecedented progress in the next 2-3 months or they're going to have a job hitting their release date with an accurately finished and liveried model. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frond Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Just received the usual weekend e-mail from Hornby promoting the Engine Shed. In the blurb they talk about sneak peaks of upcoming projects including "a sample for the brand new Princess Royal!" But it is the same old picture. If this picture really does represent the current state of progress then I can't understand why the are still saying that the model will be available in the Autumn. Something clearly does not stack up. Is it incompetence using the wrong picture or is the project behind schedule and they are not admitting it or is there a cunning plan? PS Personally although I tongue in cheek made the suggestion that it was the wrong picture I think that there is nothing else to show, because if there was the article would have been far more extensive. Edited July 27, 2019 by Frond Correct typos 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2019 One has to wonder whether The Engine Shed is being quietly sidelined........being shunted into a siding if you like,excusing the awful pun.......in order to be overtaken by its glossier but slightly vacuous contemporary YouTube version. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: One has to wonder whether The Engine Shed is being quietly sidelined........being shunted into a siding if you like,excusing the awful pun.......in order to be overtaken by its glossier but slightly vacuous contemporary YouTube version. Sadly I would tend to agree. This months was very light on its usual content. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) I thought the Princess Royal had been pushed back to late next year? That's what seemed to be thought byou the comments. Which I think was somewhere on the Hornby site. Might have been the Hornbys Facebook page, but I haven't seen it officially stated. Edited July 27, 2019 by farren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: One has to wonder whether The Engine Shed is being quietly sidelined........being shunted into a siding if you like,excusing the awful pun.......in order to be overtaken by its glossier but slightly vacuous contemporary YouTube version. I have wondered if they're going to amalgamate it with 'The Signal Box' - and call it 'The Moretonhampstead' . But I strongly suspect that particular irony would be lost not only on many who look at 'The Signal Box' but also on those who produce it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted July 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2019 I hope they keep the Engine Shed, on the plus side I had not picked up on the fancy box for the Huntley & Palmer freight pack, a nice touch. The quality of the images in the section on the 156 and 87 weren't great either for some reason, but fine on the H&P pack and Open Weekend. Started watching the Signal Box, the close ups of the HST livery and details are useful and interesting. Also shows how difficult it is with HD as it shows up every speck of dust! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I’m pleased to see that Hornby has abandoned the flangeless trailing wheels on the Princess. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 hours ago, farren said: I thought the Princess Royal had been pushed back to late next year? That's what seemed to be thought byou the comments. Which I think was somewhere on the Hornby site. Might have been the Hornbys Facebook page, but I haven't seen it officially stated. It is now officially stated as autumn 2019 on Hornby's site , but last week it was winter 2019-2020, so it can change every few weeks, hope this will help 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Maybe it's based on the docking schedule of the ship that's bringing them across - often difficult to tie down? Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, atom3624 said: Maybe it's based on the docking schedule of the ship that's bringing them across - often difficult to tie down? Al. All the container ships between the Far East and the UK work on a liner basis with published dates of departure and UK port arrival although delays can occur due to weather and congestion at the port - but the shipping companies don't like delays because they cost huge amounts of money. But to get a shipping date means the goods have to be manufactured and packed and loaded to a container before there's going to be aboard a named ship giving a planned UK arrival date. And in the UK the goods have to clear Customs etc before they can be delivered to the consignee. Knowing the planned arrival date of the ship is probably the most reliable part once you know your goods are aboard that ship (provided the container isn't taken off the ship at another port enroute of course). Hence some folk - such as Kernow - will tell us the name of the ship our models are on and we can usually find its arrival date and watch its progress towards the UK on the 'net. If we can do it sitting at home it should present no problem for the UK 'manufacturer' customer or their agent to do the same. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 On 27/07/2019 at 10:31, The Stationmaster said: Probably all part of the consequences of turning The Engine Shed into something very different from what it used to be and it's now in the hands of 'marketing' rather than the folk who knew what they were actually looking at and doing. And if that print (which is what it appears to be?) really does represent the current state of affairs then either they are going to be making unprecedented progress in the next 2-3 months or they're going to have a job hitting their release date with an accurately finished and liveried model. I felt this was different to previous editions. Somewhat less informative. Hopefully the marketing folk will get up to speed. I found this somewhat less mouth watering. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I would guess that Hornby marketing wants to control all customer oriented messaging but doesn't understand how to communicate or doesn't wish to communicate with those who liked the old Engine Shed. I am not sure that type of "corporatization" sits that well in in this rather specialized hobby in spite of what the young things in marketing have been told in their business trade schools. The Engine Shed should have remained a channel oriented to the sophisticated railway and modeling technically knowledgable customers. Then the marketing departments U Tube can then be let loose on the less sophisticated sectors of their perceived markets without turning off the knowledgable customers. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I quite agree! You'd have thought that the marketeers would have understood the principles of Segmentation and could take on board the idea that their product appealed to a number of different demographics. The main problem is that its probably not a good idea to employ the same person to communicate with different channels. However I fear that currently Marketing is in the hands of the armwaving, fast talking, completely incoherent Social Media generation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 21 hours ago, ruggedpeak said: I hope they keep the Engine Shed, on the plus side I had not picked up on the fancy box for the Huntley & Palmer freight pack, a nice touch. I went and had a look expecting it to be biscuit tin inspired and was a bit disappointed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted July 29, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29, 2019 A shadow of its former self . Looks like it was cobbled together at short notice to get something out , which explains the Princess pictures. The new darling is Signal Box , I suspect Engine Shed will just wither and die . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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