Hroth Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, phil-b259 said: the people for whom Coca-Cola = Christmas And that's a very worrying observation. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted September 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, phil-b259 said: Pay attention at Christmas - there will be lots of advertising featuring Santa and Cocoa-Cola. There is even a American style Coca-Cola lorry that goes round UK shopping areas and it’s usually accompanied by big crowds! This was last year:- https://www.coca-cola.co.uk/stories/keep-on-trucking#ath https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/coca-cola-tuck-swansea-queuing-15447827 https://www.nottinghampost.com/whats-on/whats-on-news/coca-cola-truck-arrived-people-2297153 https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink/coca-cola-truck-taunton-traffic-2218737 https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/coca-cola-truck-arrives-birmingham-12336601 THAT is the market Hornby are aiming for - the people for whom Coca-Cola = Christmas and who will quite like the idea of a Coca-Cola train running round the tree. They even do a TT Coca Cola livery model too.... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/arnold-tt-1-120-4-unit-double-decker-coaches-with-drivers-cabin-dr-livery-coca-cola.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) They did popularise the modern Santa though. Certainly didn't invent him, no matter what it says on the internet. Jason Edited September 3, 2019 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ruggedpeak said: They even do a TT Coca Cola livery model too.... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/arnold-tt-1-120-4-unit-double-decker-coaches-with-drivers-cabin-dr-livery-coca-cola.html That could be based on a real one. I think there are some in Europe. Definitely some in the Far East. One here. http://thesweethostage.blogspot.com/2013/11/coca-cola-train.html Similar to this one. https://www.flickr.com/photos/bolckow/2402266659 Jason Edited September 3, 2019 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted September 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 3, 2019 They can't afford the Coca Cola lorry around our way this Christmas, so Dave the Spanner is going about with his Lada painted red, and a bottle of pop from the local Aldi. Merry Xmas, everyone! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 More to my taste ........ https://nationalmotormuseum.org.uk/vehicle-collection/daimler-tl30-bottle-lorry/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wickham Green said: More to my taste ........ https://nationalmotormuseum.org.uk/vehicle-collection/daimler-tl30-bottle-lorry/ Just don't get your IPAs confused..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Indeed .................. safest to stick with the meths ......................................................................................................... for degreasing, that is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big James Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Is it me or does anyone else keep humming holidays are coming while reading this thread. Big James 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted September 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Hroth said: And that's a very worrying observation. Indeed; round my way the arrival of the diabetes truck is treated like the second coming for pity's sake... https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17270030.coca-cola-truck-rolls-into-town-as-part-of-christmas-tour 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JiLo Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, spamcan61 said: Indeed; round my way the arrival of the diabetes truck is treated like the second coming for pity's sake... https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17270030.coca-cola-truck-rolls-into-town-as-part-of-christmas-tour Same here, and its quite tragic that the hordes of fat kids guzzling gallons of sugar filled Coke still move at a slothen pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) On 03/09/2019 at 02:55, phil-b259 said: It always amuses me when folk get so passionate about whether the colours used on any model are correct. The reality is:- The material used - the plastic used for toys is very different to sheet metal and will alter the way light bounces off it and into our eyeballs The colour / preparation of the underlying material - affects the amounts of R/G/B light that are reflected The type and strength of the light source makes a big difference - as its the reflection of this which allows us to perceive colour The distance away from the item will also have an effect - less reflected light enters the eyeball in the first place. The background colour against which the item is viewed can trick how the brain works* Each persons eyeball is physically different and will vary as to how responsive it is to light colour. Any previous processing (i.e. where using a photograph as a reference) which will have a big impact on all the above (i.e. an image seen on a monitor or a photograph. As such its quite possible that each manufacture will come up with a different shade - given all of the above simply using the exact Pantone shade the real thing is painted in won't work for scale models. *We know that certain foods taste better / more flavoursome depending on the colour of the dish in which they are served. Similarly you can easily fool the brain into thinking shapes are different sizes simply by altering the colours used. Then there is colour blindness..... As an aside the variability of the human eyeball the one factor the purveyors of HD / 4K / etc. TVs never acknowledge. Given advance of technology in recent decades the limitation on the viewing experience is not how many pixels or supper LEDs its got - but rather the eyesight of the person purchasing it! Ignoring the horrble trend to Coca Cola and other sugar stuff, back to a more Engine Shed thing, and in reply to the above, I photographed a lightly weathered Hornby Princess yesterday and in average room-lt daylight i looked like an accurate BR green, but the Canon camera and its rendition, it looked like his. Edited (but not for colour) will remove if asked or i judged irrelevant. Just for interest you understand. Wouldn't it be great if the new Hornby Princess resembles this! added proper driving wheels with beveled rims, and sharper detail on smokebox front, mainly.. Edited September 4, 2019 by robmcg typos and added pic 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted September 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2019 16 hours ago, truffy said: IIRC, colour scaling is related to the fact that a model reflects less light than a 1:1. It doesn't change the hue so much as the intensity of the light reaching the observer. But you do you. This may well be true - and I suppose you could come up with a scientific equation to determine exactly how much less and call the resulting ratio 'colour scaling' - but given human eyes vary considerably in how they respond to light any scientific / mathematical analysis breaks down at that stage! I suppose if you really wanted to - you could give thousands of people detailed eye tests and come up with a hundred or so whose eyes are within a 5% tolerance and combine that with your ratio obtained earlier - which would allow a genuine 'colour scaling' standard to be established as it were. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 03/09/2019 at 11:07, truffy said: IIRC, colour scaling is related to the fact that a model reflects less light than a 1:1. It doesn't change the hue so much as the intensity of the light reaching the observer. But you do you. Hmm. I see what you're getting at, but the model reflects the same amount of light as the real one looked at from 20 feet away if you look at it from a scale 20 feet away in the same light, or any other distance scaled down correctly. The block of colour occupies the same area of your visual field, and in the same lighting has the same intensity. Now, that's a lot of 'sames', and while my understanding of the technical aspects of light and colour is admittedly limited, I contend that this illustrates exactly the difficulty of establishing any sort of correlation between colours on real things and on scale models a seventy sixth of the size, even before we take into account the screen and camera setting problem Mike Stationmaster pointed out. A lot of time and energy can be expended in an attempt to 'get it right', to little avail; we have had previous discussions about the colour of LMR red pacifics and the exact nature of GW green which came to no objectively certain conclusions. Many years ago I invested in a colour wheel from a good art shop. I have kept it in a drawer to prevent it fading, and it is still a very useful piece of kit! Some of my model painting has been guesswork; the Lima 117 I converted to a 116 back in the 80s is in a shade of dmu green dictated by memory, and the internal surfaces are finished in Games Workshop 'decaying orc flesh' green to match my memory of the vinyl interior surfaces of units produced in the late 50s. Seat headrests are in 'dried blood'. I am quite happy with the finish of the thing! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Seat headrests are in 'dried blood'. How apt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted September 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2019 It is a Cardiff Valleys set after all! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 03/09/2019 at 16:16, Wickham Green said: More to my taste ........ https://nationalmotormuseum.org.uk/vehicle-collection/daimler-tl30-bottle-lorry/ Oh yes! “Capacity: 3,520cc.” That’s a whole party! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yep - that'd do me nicely .................................. dunno what everyone else is gonna have ...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 New Engine Shed now , liverey samples of the new brake vans, they look great, and Ruston, Class 59 and 87 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 No shed today ??!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2019 Probably next week 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Wickham Green said: No shed today ??!? Well, it depends on what kind you prefer 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 This one? So good he bought another one.... Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 hours ago, scots region said: Well, it depends on what kind you prefer The third one might be just about big enough for my ideas for a model railway... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ian J. said: The third one might be just about big enough for my ideas for a model railway... I would need the one behind as well 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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