RMweb Premium Islesy Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2020 And now live folks - sorry for the delay... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/new-tooling-latest-running-samples 10 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Islesy said: And now live folks - sorry for the delay... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/new-tooling-latest-running-samples Worth waiting for. The “Hush Hush” is breath taking. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Islesy said: ... sorry for the delay... I think we can wait, when you are planning to hit us with all that big engine stuff. (The small locos looked good too.) Passing thought, the impressive side on pic of the real Hush-hush with just the coupling rods. The thought that flew into my mind was how impressive the Turbomotive - which ran like that - would look. Go on, you know you want to... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) I'm surprised no one mentioned the elephant in the room... Although Judith Edge do a kit so not wishlisting. Just pointing it out before someone else does.... Jason Edited August 21, 2020 by Steamport Southport 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Islesy said: And now live folks - sorry for the delay... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/new-tooling-latest-running-samples I've been putting it off but I can't wait for the A2/2 and A2/3. Now duly ordered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I'm surprised no one mentioned the elephant in the room... Although Judith Edge do a kit so not wishlisting. Just pointing it out before someone else does.... Jason You forgot to mention the Mumbles tramcar.... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, stewartingram said: You forgot to mention the Mumbles tramcar.... When are the first engineering samples expected? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I did. But I must have Mumbled.... Mumbles is a funny place, A church without a steeple, Houses made of old ships wrecked And most peculiar people 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Islesy said: And now live folks - sorry for the delay... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/new-tooling-latest-running-samples Am I missing something - or is there considerably more Maxak ( = weight ) in the Ivatt than there is in the W1 ??!? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Am I missing something - or is there considerably more Maxak ( = weight ) in the Ivatt than there is in the W1 ??!? The BR Standard 2mt, not an Ivatt, is considerably smaller so the boiler is made heavier to compensate. The W1 will have more metal components on the chassis than just those shown in the images. Edited August 22, 2020 by Hilux5972 Correction 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I think people are getting confused as it's neither. It's a BR Riddles 2MT 2-6-0. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2020 The Mumbles Railway/ Tram failed to make the great preservation era. It would today have been a spectacular heritage tourist attraction. I suppose it suffered from its terminus location at the business end being very much out of the way of the town centre ( Dylan Thomas ‘. “ Lovely Ugly Town “) in the middle of nowhere in particular and a hike from High Street Station,Victoria being never much more than a ghost LNWR/LMR presence even though it was close. Great rides and days out fondly remembered from the top deck....Swansea Bay curving to the left towards the Lifeboat Station at Mumbles Pier and St.Helens ground and the Brangwyn Hall to the right. And always the stop at Forte’s Ice Cream Pavilion at Oystermouth for scoops of ice cream with raspberry sauce. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 9 hours ago, davidw said: I've been putting it off but I can't wait for the A2/2 and A2/3. Now duly ordered. They all look stunning I couldn't decide which two I wanted so in the end I pre-ordered R3831 and R3833. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I think people are getting confused as it's neither. It's a BR Riddles 2MT 2-6-0. Jason So you're saying they weren't called BR standard 2MTs? That seems to be the most popular name for them! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2020 Call it a Standard 2MT.....everyone did.The name Riddles was rarely heard. This as opposed to the Ivatt designed variety which outnumbered it and was known sometimes as a “Mickey Mouse “. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: Call it a Standard 2MT.....everyone did.The name Riddles was rarely heard. This as opposed to the Ivatt designed variety which outnumbered it and was known sometimes as a “Mickey Mouse “. That's what I thought. Riddles designed most if not all the standard classes but I haven't heard him in the name of the class before. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, TomScrut said: That's what I thought. Riddles designed most if not all the standard classes but I haven't heard him in the name of the class before. And that applies to all BR Standard classes. RA Riddles being in a way their unsung hero. Checking my Ian Allan 1955 ABC shows credits for the WD but otherwise for the Standards the credits go to whichever of BR’s works designed them. A”Standard “ was just that and a prestigious “cop” for a young trainspotter. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ian Hargrave said: RA Riddles being in a way their unsung hero. To some he is a hero, to others his standards were seen as an expensive vanity project, that delayed main line electrification. You choose your corner. Mike Wiltshire 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Always known the unnamed (or largely unnamed) classes as being referred to as Standards bar the 9Fs Standard 2/3/4/5 Standard 2/3/4 tank Standard 4 mogul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, TomScrut said: So you're saying they weren't called BR standard 2MTs? That seems to be the most popular name for them! No. Two people have described them as an Ivatt and another as a Standard Four*. I used Riddles to differentiate then from the Ivatt which has been mentioned above. Riddles is a common and proper term to describe them. There are even books titled Riddles Locomotives.... https://rail-books.co.uk/products/looking-back-at-riddles-and-ivatt-locomotives-9781905276264 https://www.abebooks.co.uk/products/isbn/9780711007956?cm_sp=bdp-_-9780711007956-_-isbn10 *Since changed. Besides what's a Standard Four? The Midland called their ones Standard Fours as well. More commonly called a 4F. Jason Edited August 22, 2020 by Steamport Southport 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: As a Standard 4 Yes that was a slip of my finger. I did mean a standard 2mt of course. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: *Since changed. That's what I didn't see, and so wondered what you were on about! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 You could be even more pedantic. 46420 to 46527 were BR Standard 2MT 2-6-0s. Built by BR. A standard design. Power class 2MT. 2-6-0s. I can guarantee none of the crews would have treated them any different than a BR version. They were virtually the same class. Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanN91 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Well the next Engine Shed is due on September 11, then the rest ,October 9, November 6 and December 4. I quite like the delays in them by a week, it adds to the speculation of what the next months will be about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 21/08/2020 at 12:10, Islesy said: And now live folks - sorry for the delay... https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/news/the-engine-shed/new-tooling-latest-running-samples And there go my nursing home fees for a while. This issue is best described as the cream of the crop. 60700 and 60501 are well remembered old friends on the buffers at KX. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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