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Thanks James. There will be some Ivory and Green stock, but only a couple at most that belong to the Wellsworth & Suddery Railway which will be allowed occasional visits. 
 

I like the sound of your tramcars - the Hales/Keilkraft plastic tramcar kits sound rather useful. I guess the Testors/Hawk San Francisco cable car kit is the 7mm scale equivalent. 
 

I will admit that in my world the ETCo’s G15 and W&U tramcar plus luggage van did originally come from your GER-WNR joint Bishops Lynn Tramway - a perfect excuse to have a couple of additional members of the class built without too much compromise! I hope that is acceptable to yourself. 
 

I shall looking forward to seeing the WNR version of the ETCo steam trams in due course. We do have a similar, excellent taste in freelance Edwardian railways - long may it continue! 
 

Thank you, I’m just glad to be finally getting somewhere with building a layout. I suspect my other half is glad as well having patiently listened to my ideas for the last 14 years (he’s a patient one bless him). 
 

I must admit I like the challenge of not having a loop, mainly as the width of the board just won’t permit it. It’ll certainly keep me on my toes when operating. The trains will arrive and depart on scene from behalf the dairy which will act as a viewblocker at the front left hand end. I’ll probably use a cassette system or similar to move stock on and off the layout. 
 

Thanks, the Horsebox is ex-Midland - IIRC the drawing is from Midland Carriages Vol.1. I reckon one of them would be an ideal cast-off acquired by the West Norfolk? 

 


Today’s workbench occupant is Wellsworth & Suddery Railway “Rognvald” which is back for further thoughts on its conversion/unholy matrimony of a Minerva Peckett and a Dapol Terrier. I’m aiming for a Victorian/Edwardian maid-of-all-work look which I think I’ve captured with this attempt:

 

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We have:

- Dapol Terrier chassis

- Scratchbuilt footplate

-Minerva Peckett body (shortened) and cab (altered and rear bunker added)

- Dapol Terrier splashers and smokebox

- IIRC the chimney is Midland from a 1F

 

A real mashup of parts, but I do like how it looks. Just need to find a way now to disguise the motor under the saddletank. 

 

I was going to finish it in the standard W&SR livery of two tone green, but I think he’ll look rather good in NWR blue. 
 

Thoughts please folks? 

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It’s nice to see that you’re bashing up locos just like the common practice with 00 locos. I presume they’re all second hand stuff, not new, that have become available? I must get out more.

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7 hours ago, sir douglas said:

kind of reminds me of the Kerr Stuarts in Argentina

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Thanks Sam, that's a good find. 

 

4 hours ago, Northroader said:

It’s nice to see that you’re bashing up locos just like the common practice with 00 locos. I presume they’re all second hand stuff, not new, that have become available? I must get out more.

 

Some new, some secondhand that I inherited from a late friend. A lot of his came to me as effectively kits of parts so were actually a good starting point to put different bits together to get something else. I've never been afraid to take them apart and repaint/modify as necessary to suit my needs, whether they were new or secondhand! 

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Little bits of modelling to report on this week.

 

Ex W&SR “Edric” in North Western Railway colours has now gained a number and been reassembled. I’ll add the lining when I’ve placed my next order with HMRS:

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A new nameplate for him is on order from Light Railway Stores/Narrow Planet, along with those for the rest of the Wellsworth & Suddery Railway fleet. Hopefully that will give me the incentive to get on and sort them out. 

 

ETCo/NWR No.7 “Toby” has also gained numbering:

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I tested out a new lining scheme for the ETCo locos, using “Gerda” as the guinea pig:

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Just a basic trial using some old waterslide transfers from Fox at the moment. I’ll redo it properly when I get some better Pressfix ones from HMRS but I think it suits the trams nicely. 
 

I then had a very silly idea at the end of last week… :D 

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North Western Railway No.1. Scratchbuilt body which is very much work in progress but I think I’ve captured the likeness nicely, though I’m not going for the dropped footplate at the front (mainly as I prefer the look from the later books). It’s sitting on a Dapol Terrier chassis, but that’s been fitted with the wheels from the Dapol Jinty. I just need to swap the gear wheels over as the one on the Jinty is much chunkier and won’t fit the chassis. 
 

Thoughts? 
 

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1 hour ago, NeilHB said:

 

I then had a very silly idea at the end of last week… :D 

 

 

Do you save them up for the weekend or do you have silly thoughts all the time - having worked with you Monday to Friday, I think I know the answer to that one . . . . . . !!

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“Thorkell” paid a short visit to the workbench this evening in order to receive its Wellsworth & Suddery Railway lettering as their No.1:

 

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As the layout will eventually cover a couple of different time periods, the other side carries North Western Railway lettering as their No.12:

 

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For the later North Western Railway time period, I’ve been working on and modifying a Slaters Midland 6-wheel Brake Third to get away slightly from its obviously Midland origins:

 

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It will form one half of a pair of NWR liveried 6-wheelers that will go rather nicely with NWR No.1:

 

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What do you think please folks? 

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My HMRS transfer order arrived today (very speedy since I only ordered them on Saturday), so I sat down this evening and started sorting out the lining on some of the stock.

ETCo No.3 “Gerda” was first up, and I’ve lined one side so far using LMS pale yellow and black lining:
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Much better than my hand lining attempts! This will become the standard ETCo lining now.

I’d also ordered some LNER white/black lining to do the W&SR locos, and ETCo No.2 “Sigrid” as she carries a green livery rather than the standard ETCo Indian Red, so I’ve made a start on her too:
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Still got to line the skirts but I like how it’s looking so far. 

I also applied lining to the skirts of NWR No.7 - just a simple red line but it does set the blue colour off nicely I think:

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What do you think please folks?

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Sometimes you just have to say to hell with it and start again…twice in fact! 
 

WSR “Thorkell” was first up in the do it again category, having new lining applied and new sets of lettering on both sides as I wasn’t happy with them:

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In WSR condition as their No.1

 

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In early NWR days as their No.12

 

”Sigmund” also had the do it treatment, this time involving a full repaint in readiness for new lining, which has now been applied to the boiler, one side and one end:

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Much better now I think. 

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I am pleased to report that all lining has been completed on Elsbridge Tramway Company locomotives Nos.2 and 4. A very productive lunch hour today adding the last few bits. 

 

No.2 "Sigrid" in Doncaster Green with Black/White Lining: 

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And No.4 "Sigmund" in the standard ETCo livery of Indian Red with Yellow/Black lining: 

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No.4 needs a new set of roof supports as I managed to break a couple off when I was lining it out. At least they will be an easy fix. 

 

I hope to be able to complete the lining on No.3 "Gerda" this evening.

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3 hours ago, johnhutnick said:

I have a question about the flat hinges with the rounded center boss which are used for folding the layout.  What is the term for these?  I am in the US, and have not typically seen this style for sale.


Hi John,

They are pasting table hinges. 

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5 hours ago, johnhutnick said:

Thank you.  Having done a search, it is possible that we may not have them here.  In the UK, the manufacturer(if not from China) is a company called Perry.   I wrote to them.

 

Plenty for sale in the UK.  I can see no reason why they wouldn't ship to the US.  Having lived in the Americas for a spell, I never had any difficulty having stuff sent out from the Mother Country. 

 

Ironmongery Direct is a company I've had good dealings with in the past. 

 

 

 

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A little break from lining to letter up the first of my ETCo wagons.

 

The transfers were a custom order from Corbs at Railway Mania - I can highly recommend as the transfers are very clean and crisp, easy to apply and most importantly were excellent value for money. Thanks Corbs! 
 

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Standard 3-plank open No.6

 

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2-plank dropside No.11

 

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4-plank open fitted with raves for the transportation of sheep No.17

 

Next step to paint the interiors and underframes. I then need to get on and build some more to use more of the transfers! 

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1 hour ago, johnhutnick said:

Regarding the paste board style of hinges, I wrote to Ironmongery Direct.  They were very prompt in their reply, and said that they would not currently ship to the US.  Does anyone have any other ideas?

Try ebay or the o gauge guild or 7mm narrow gauge society as they do have links to help you find a way of getting them to the USA. 

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2 hours ago, johnhutnick said:

Regarding the paste board style of hinges, I wrote to Ironmongery Direct.  They were very prompt in their reply, and said that they would not currently ship to the US.  Does anyone have any other ideas?


John,

 

A quick search of eBay UK for ‘Pasting table hinges’ found a few sellers that shipped worldwide - all very reasonable prices by the look of things. 
 

Hope you manage to find some that are suitable. 

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18 hours ago, NeilHB said:


John,

 

A quick search of eBay UK for ‘Pasting table hinges’ found a few sellers that shipped worldwide - all very reasonable prices by the look of things. 
 

Hope you manage to find some that are suitable. 

 

Agree.

 

Sorry about the duff gen regarding Ironmongery Direct, but these Ebay sellers claim to ship across the herring pond:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333284505114?hash=item4d994df61a:g:dPoAAOSwv~1aPRxB

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263722978198?hash=item3d671d4b96:g:xfEAAOSw7kVbDat3

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110688310763?hash=item19c58995eb:g:WwMAAOSwG1xdB~86#shpCntId

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164591305588?hash=item2652680374:g:qu4AAOSwQZFc9C65

 

 

 

 

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Thanks.  I have ordered 2 pair from: ironmongery_expressuk

My order shows an item price of $12.48 and total with shipping of $29.57.

Is it worthwhile to buy another pair from a different seller?

By the way, I see that the UK is apparently unlocking, except Transport London.  We have had few restrictions here for some time for vaccinated people(everyone that I know), the exception being at medical facilities.  But a lot of people still go around with masks.  Now I hope that the medical industry will stop dicking around and give out booster shots.

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A new wagon has taken shape over the last couple of evenings, in the form of a dumb-buffered 3-plank open for the tramway company:

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Usual constructions method of styrene strip for the underframe, plastic sheet for the basic bodywork and then more plastic strip for the strapping etc. It’s now ready for the paintshop which will be tomorrow’s task.

 

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A little comparison of the dumb-buffered 3-plank and a sprung buffered 3-plank. The latter represents a rebuild of a dumb-buffered wagon. 
 

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The ETCo van has now had a trip through the paintshop and transfers have been added. Just the roof and underframe to paint now. 
 

 

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Hi there, I was just wondering if I could include your Elsbridge Tramway Company, into my alternate RWS universe? Just wanted something more original, the only difference being that they have a small branchline connecting up to the Arlesdale mine, which later is seen in Toby's Discovery. Basically it plays into that whole story

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12 hours ago, SteamLance said:

Hi there, I was just wondering if I could include your Elsbridge Tramway Company, into my alternate RWS universe? Just wanted something more original, the only difference being that they have a small branchline connecting up to the Arlesdale mine, which later is seen in Toby's Discovery. Basically it plays into that whole story


Thank you for asking, but sorry, I’m going to say no. The ETCo is my creation, and I’m quite protective of it. 

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