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A little break from lining to letter up the first of my ETCo wagons.

 

The transfers were a custom order from Corbs at Railway Mania - I can highly recommend as the transfers are very clean and crisp, easy to apply and most importantly were excellent value for money. Thanks Corbs! 
 

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Standard 3-plank open No.6

 

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2-plank dropside No.11

 

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4-plank open fitted with raves for the transportation of sheep No.17

 

Next step to paint the interiors and underframes. I then need to get on and build some more to use more of the transfers! 

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Regarding the paste board style of hinges, I wrote to Ironmongery Direct.  They were very prompt in their reply, and said that they would not currently ship to the US.  Does anyone have any other ideas?

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1 hour ago, johnhutnick said:

Regarding the paste board style of hinges, I wrote to Ironmongery Direct.  They were very prompt in their reply, and said that they would not currently ship to the US.  Does anyone have any other ideas?

Try ebay or the o gauge guild or 7mm narrow gauge society as they do have links to help you find a way of getting them to the USA. 

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2 hours ago, johnhutnick said:

Regarding the paste board style of hinges, I wrote to Ironmongery Direct.  They were very prompt in their reply, and said that they would not currently ship to the US.  Does anyone have any other ideas?


John,

 

A quick search of eBay UK for ‘Pasting table hinges’ found a few sellers that shipped worldwide - all very reasonable prices by the look of things. 
 

Hope you manage to find some that are suitable. 

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18 hours ago, NeilHB said:


John,

 

A quick search of eBay UK for ‘Pasting table hinges’ found a few sellers that shipped worldwide - all very reasonable prices by the look of things. 
 

Hope you manage to find some that are suitable. 

 

Agree.

 

Sorry about the duff gen regarding Ironmongery Direct, but these Ebay sellers claim to ship across the herring pond:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333284505114?hash=item4d994df61a:g:dPoAAOSwv~1aPRxB

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263722978198?hash=item3d671d4b96:g:xfEAAOSw7kVbDat3

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110688310763?hash=item19c58995eb:g:WwMAAOSwG1xdB~86#shpCntId

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164591305588?hash=item2652680374:g:qu4AAOSwQZFc9C65

 

 

 

 

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Thanks.  I have ordered 2 pair from: ironmongery_expressuk

My order shows an item price of $12.48 and total with shipping of $29.57.

Is it worthwhile to buy another pair from a different seller?

By the way, I see that the UK is apparently unlocking, except Transport London.  We have had few restrictions here for some time for vaccinated people(everyone that I know), the exception being at medical facilities.  But a lot of people still go around with masks.  Now I hope that the medical industry will stop dicking around and give out booster shots.

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A new wagon has taken shape over the last couple of evenings, in the form of a dumb-buffered 3-plank open for the tramway company:

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Usual constructions method of styrene strip for the underframe, plastic sheet for the basic bodywork and then more plastic strip for the strapping etc. It’s now ready for the paintshop which will be tomorrow’s task.

 

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A little comparison of the dumb-buffered 3-plank and a sprung buffered 3-plank. The latter represents a rebuild of a dumb-buffered wagon. 
 

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The ETCo van has now had a trip through the paintshop and transfers have been added. Just the roof and underframe to paint now. 
 

 

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Hi there, I was just wondering if I could include your Elsbridge Tramway Company, into my alternate RWS universe? Just wanted something more original, the only difference being that they have a small branchline connecting up to the Arlesdale mine, which later is seen in Toby's Discovery. Basically it plays into that whole story

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12 hours ago, SteamLance said:

Hi there, I was just wondering if I could include your Elsbridge Tramway Company, into my alternate RWS universe? Just wanted something more original, the only difference being that they have a small branchline connecting up to the Arlesdale mine, which later is seen in Toby's Discovery. Basically it plays into that whole story


Thank you for asking, but sorry, I’m going to say no. The ETCo is my creation, and I’m quite protective of it. 

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A nice little project over the last couple of days has been a luggage van to run with the tramcars. Based on the original W&U luggage van (No.9), but with panelled sides/ends rather than planked:

 

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Its rather dinky (84mm body length), but plenty big enough to deal with luggage and small parcels etc. 
 

As you can see it fits in rather nicely with the other tramcars:

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I must admit I’m really glad I decided to start again with these and change the colour scheme - the blue and white does look rather nice with the Indian Red tram locos. 
 

I’ve also acquired another Dapol Sentinel body, which will become a North Western Railway one in lined black:

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Initial coat of black on the bodywork and a coat of white on the buffersbeams completed today. I’ll stick the first coat of red paint on the bufferbeams tomorrow. 

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North Western Railway No.21 “Ulf”, a 4wVBTG Sentinel acquired in 1928 for shunting and light goods work:

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A couple of bits to touch up, some nameplates to sort and a dose of weathering should see “Ulf” completed. 

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Spent this evening lining out North Western Railway A1X no.14 “Edric” (ex Wellsworth & Suddery Railway):

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Just need the nameplates from Narrow Planet to arrive now and then it’s completed. 

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Took some of the tramway stock outside at lunchtime today for a little impromptu photo shoot given how nice the weather was:

 

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I made a decision that I wasn’t happy with the finish on the Wellsworth & Suddery liveried version of “Edric”, the ex LBSCR A1, so over the last couple of days this has been stripped back and repainted. I’ve gone for a simpler colour scheme this time, reflecting that this was a later addition to the fleet than “Thorkell” which carries a two-two green livery.

Last night I made a start on the lining, and have completed one side so far. I’m just debating at the moment as to whether I try and line out the splashers as well:
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As the W&S version was being repainted, I’ve borrowed the nameplates from it to complete the later NWR version of the same loco, post A1X rebuild:
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Hmm, some sort of pesky temporal anomaly appears to have formed allowing the two versions to appear side by side…I must investigate!

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Layout planning take two!
Having mulled it over plenty, I came to the conclusion that the previous layout plan didn’t really do it for me, so back to the drawing board.
This time I think I’ve cracked it, and am much happier with this plan already.

Presenting the Elsbridge Tramway Company’s moorland terminus at Ffarquhar Road. Built as built of the tramways extension to Ffarquhar and the stone quarry at Anopha Fell in 1901, the terminus was situated on the outskirts of Ffarquhar bounded by moorland and the road into Ffarquhar (hence the name). It’s a simple plan, but will give me the main things I want from a layout at the moment:
- easy to set up/take down so that I can set it up in the house
- transportable so able to take it to our local show
- caters for passenger and goods traffic
- most importantly simple. The last time I built a layout was over 15years ago when I still lived at home before I went to university!

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There’ll be a loading dock at the end of the loop headshunt for livestock traffic. The goods siding in the background will hold four wagons comfortably. The white blobs represent the line of the platform which will be 5-6mm above

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An overall view from what will be the viewing side of the layout.

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No.4 “Sigmund” awaits departure with the tramcars plus goods van. Fiddle yard will be off to the left - just a two road sector plate.

Later in the day Wellsworth & Suddery Railway “Edric” arrived with a short goods train. I’m not sure the W&S bosses will be happy that one of their goods brake vans has disappeared up the tramway! 
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What do you think please folks?

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Makes very good sense, I’m always thinking “keep it simple” and I’ve put links on my Washbourne thread recently to two layouts, which are not a million miles from what you’re doing here, which are excellent examples of this. Talking of Sudrian affairs, have you picked up on this one?

P.S.thinking about it, something I’m guilty of, is there enough width for what scenery you want?

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Thanks Northroader. There are grand plans for a layout round one end of the garage at some point, but I definitely need to keep the first layout simple I think. 
 

Yes I’ve been following Tom’s Sudrian work for a little while now, he’s doing an excellent job with Scaca Fell Forestry Crossing. 
 

Scenery will be a bit limited, but I don’t mind. If needs I can always add on some scenic extension boards. 

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Looking good, Neil - I need to measure up and take the embryonic "Seahouses" off the living room floor this evening (Mrs-CKPR-to-be is due back home tomorrow or Thursday...) and this has given me some ideas regarding portable baseboards for 'O' gauge. Regarding sources of inspiration, I was very taken with Dava's  Derwent Valley themed  "Coney Hill" and let's hear it for Northroader's "Washbourne"

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On 03/08/2021 at 21:32, NeilHB said:

Took some of the tramway stock outside at lunchtime today for a little impromptu photo shoot given how nice the weather was:

 

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MAGNIFICO!

 

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5 hours ago, kingfisher9147 said:

Very nice plans for take to shows? If so watch that kid's don't pull on the legs. Seen it happen before 

Mike

Thanks Mike. Yes, but only to my local show in Derby. Going to look at getting some of the Screwfix metal trestles which are a bit narrower but also height adjustable which will help. 
 

3 hours ago, CKPR said:

Looking good, Neil - I need to measure up and take the embryonic "Seahouses" off the living room floor this evening (Mrs-CKPR-to-be is due back home tomorrow or Thursday...) and this has given me some ideas regarding portable baseboards for 'O' gauge. Regarding sources of inspiration, I was very taken with Dava's  Derwent Valley themed  "Coney Hill" and let's hear it for Northroader's "Washbourne"

Thanks, much appreciated. Spotted your version of “Seahouses” over on your thread. I do love the North Sunderland, such a fascinating railway and will be looking forward to seeing your progress on it. 
 


There was much discussion this afternoon with Mr Young about the layout, and a few useful tweaks have been made to the overall design: 

- Train lengths will be kept short. The maximum is 700mm which is equivalent to a Terrier, 3 wagons and a brake van. 
- To aid that I’m going to use cassettes in the FY. Initially there will be three: passenger tram, goods tram and a mixed set. 

- A suitable view blocker is needed to screen trains entering/exiting the layout. We agreed that a water tower next to the loop would do nicely, and create a nice scene and some interest at the same time with locos stopping to take on water when they run round (it will also give the operator time to move the cassette to the other line).
- A suitable building to act as the station building has been identified which will fit nicely in the space available and won’t overpower the layout. 
- A cunning plan for the backscene and the hinged board extensions has been drawn up.

- I worked out that I can leave two wagons at the loading dock in the loop headshunt and still have plenty of room to run the Terrier round :D 

- Oh and it’s booked in for a show already - our open day in January 2022 - nothing like a deadline! :O 

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The cork trackbed has now been laid across most of the board, and I’ve had a little play this evening:

 

 

Feels good to get something moving, even if it is temporary! 

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The basic track work has now been cut and laid in place to check clearances etc.6AC95A95-9568-4DBB-8882-ACD158178837.jpeg.4018dd54a8af7ee1ed9afb2e36aa9258.jpeg

This should give you a nice overall view of the layout and trackplan - nice and simple but plenty of fun. 
 

Shades of the WC&P at Ffarquhar Road as W&SR “Thorkell” arrives with one of the W&S bogie Tramcar coaches:

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Later in the day we see ETCo No.5 “St Machan” in the loop in the process of running round it’s good train:

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