RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2017 Style 2 is most realistic for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yes Style 2 looks about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Style 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Style 2 looks about the least worst one but they don't look anywhere near right! Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2017 Style 3 is ...not very good.... style 2 is much better but I weather my own stock anyway as I like wagons to all be different Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Style 2 for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2017 Style 2 looks about the least worst one but they don't look anywhere near right! Sorry Where do you think it is wrong? Looks pretty close to this: http://www.wildboarmodels.co.uk/resources/PHV%20PH.png.opt684x456o0%2C0s684x456.png Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Style two looks bang on to me! They will be worth the wait! Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Just perusing the Hattons website - thinking of putting in an order BUT.....there are small and large "ICI"s on some wagons. Wish Hattons website said which were which, or would it be possible for Hattons Dave to post a list on here?? Many Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3200 to 3283 later ICIM 19000 to 19083 later BLI ditto had small letters and diamond frame bogie from new. From 1980s onwards swapped diamond bogie for plate frame bogie. 3284 to 3319 / 19084 - 19119 had large letters and plate frame bogies from new. A mixture of both is realistic in any era from 1950s onwards. HTH Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Style 2 - very much how I remember them passing Alty GS in the 70's... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hattons Dave Posted September 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2017 Hi all, Here's a quick breakdown showing which ICI lettering is fitted (if any) to each wagon in the full range that we're producing. Hope this helps. Cheers, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) mid 2018, that gives me time to get my credit card cleared. Might have to dream up a reason for a Tunstead to Black Country working.. Agreed, that'll be the Bescot portion of the little known and never knowingly photographed Tunstead to Southampton train (for export) via the West Midlands, Banbury Oxford and the DN&S - often hauled by pairs of Claytons and the occasional Class 28 - Ruuuuuulllllllleeeee 1 stretched ................. Edited September 25, 2017 by Southernman46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard60098 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Where do you think it is wrong? Looks pretty close to this: http://www.wildboarmodels.co.uk/resources/PHV%20PH.png.opt684x456o0%2C0s684x456.png Roy Sorry Roy i just can't see it matching to that real rusted to death version you linked, i'm not a fan of anything weathered to buy tbh loco's or stock i was just voiceing what i thought, i'll be doing the colour myself anyways to match my current 9 brass and resin ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted September 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2017 Sorry Roy i just can't see it matching to that real rusted to death version you linked, i'm not a fan of anything weathered to buy tbh loco's or stock i was just voiceing what i thought, i'll be doing the colour myself anyways to match my current 9 brass and resin ones Fair enough, but I don't see it being anywhere near as bad as you seemed to be suggesting. Personally I think style 2 is one of best weathering jobs I have seen on a RTR wagon. Roy Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Style 2 for me. are the different weathering styles being produced across the range of models? or which will be Style 2 so I can order those? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Given the weathering on the real wagons there was an lot of variation in the shade and intensity of the brown. I am fortunate to have photos of the wagons from their days when they were used internally at Winnington Works and most times I visited it was usually a dull overcast day usually wet too so the wagons tended to look quite dark. But other photos of the wagons waiting to be scrapped at Attercliffe on a dry day look ligher. For me Style 2 looks a good starting point. Style 1 less so. Not sure what Style 3 is based on? A photo? I honestly cannot recall seeing a hopper in that condition. The weathering to the inside of the hopper itself needs to be less angular and more rounded if possible but again there was some variation in how the limestone dust and rust weathered. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Style two for me too please but I have ordered a couple of pristine ones too as will need a 'spanker' and 'nearly new' mixed in the rake of grot boxes..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Style 2 for me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoman462 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Definitely style 2 please. Leaves scope for a little personalised touching up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy h Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 called in at hattons today as was passing as i needed some bits and had a good look at the wagons they have on display the photos don't do the wagons justice. The weathering looks a lot better when they are in front of you might even up my order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Agreed, that'll be the Bescot portion of the little known and never knowingly photographed Tunstead to Southampton train (for export) via the West Midlands, Banbury Oxford and the DN&S - often hauled by pairs of Claytons and the occasional Class 28 - Ruuuuuulllllllleeeee 1 stretched ................. Rules are meant for streeeeeeetching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Style 2 is the best of the bunch in my view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Style 2 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Style 2 is how they looked passing Chinley in steam days and in the 1980's, but I am also aware they looked like Style 3 when they were cleaned up to work the last steam hauled John Summers train out of "Mersey". I never took photos in color unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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