Jump to content
 

A few of Dave F's European Railway Photos updated 16th January 2018


DaveF
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • RMweb Gold

Hi Dave

 

Do I ascertain two visits to Zell am See on different days in Sept 89?

 

J10149 weather dull, no wagon in RH mixed gauge siding.

J10235 weather bright, wagon in RH mixed gauge siding.

 

Is that correct?

 

Keith

 

Mum and Dad stayed in Zell am See for about a week as a part of a holiday they had in Austria in 1989.

 

David

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

Some more from Zell am See today.

 

 

post-5613-0-78502500-1483459363_thumb.jpg

Zell am See Class 1020 1020 009 westbound freight Sept 89 J10143

 

 

post-5613-0-31444200-1483459381_thumb.jpg

Zell am See platform trolley shunting post van Sept 89 J10179

 

 

post-5613-0-55429800-1483459375_thumb.jpg

Zell am See Class 1110 westbound freight Sept 89 J10202

 

 

post-5613-0-99277500-1483459369_thumb.jpg

Zell am See Class 1042 Salzburg to Innsbruck Sept 89 J10231

 

 

post-5613-0-25008500-1483459356_thumb.jpg

Zell am See Class 1010 westbound freight Sept 89 J10232

 

 

David

  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

Didn't know there is a mixed gauge track in this station! Could have used such a feature in my layout under construction as it is a space saver! And Tillig would have made some money... Thanks for the picture - First time I see it on a prototype track in Austria!

Edited by Vecchio
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

Guess what - I still have lots of photos taken at Zell am See, so here are a few more.

 

As you will have realised by now Dad spent as much of his holiday as he could taking railway photos.   It's as well Mum likes railways.

 

 

post-5613-0-81506800-1483543681_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1044 077 Lindau to Graz EC Dachstein Sept 89 J10148

 

 

post-5613-0-50680200-1483543656_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1042 638 Innsbruck to Salzburg Sept 89 J10180

 

 

post-5613-0-11753000-1483543663_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1042 638 Innsbruck to Salzburg Sept 89 J10181

 

 

post-5613-0-41499600-1483543675_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1044 072 Basel and Lindau to Graz Sept 89 J10200

 

 

post-5613-0-22747700-1483543669_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1044 014 westbound freight Sept 89 J10233

 

 

David

  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi David,

You might tell, I'm really enjoying your (dads) Austrian photos!

Funnily enough, at the time these photos were being taken, I was busy modelling the Austrian scene and having great fun doing so. I'm yet to build anything to replicate the fun of those days, so it's all very nostalgic for me.

Cheers and thanks again for uploading.

John.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm also very much enjoying the Zell am Zee pics. 1989 was the year I first became interested in Austrian Ralways inspired by Ian Futers OBB layouts and an article in 'Rail' magazine.

 

Zell am Zee is a great location with trains running through the middle of the town and along the lakeside, offering many photo opportunities.

 

Here are a couple more from 1995.

 

 

post-7898-0-70564100-1483611442_thumb.jpg

 

 

post-7898-0-67093700-1483611463_thumb.jpg

 

  • Like 7
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

Some photos from a day trip to Salzburg this afternoon.

 

 

post-5613-0-87774500-1483629443_thumb.jpg

Salzburg 1063 021 l e Sept 89 J10210

 

 

post-5613-0-07845800-1483629438_thumb.jpg

Salzburg 1042 619 l e Sept 89 J10212

 

 

post-5613-0-92571600-1483629431_thumb.jpg

Salzburg 1042 572 Wien to Innsbruck Sept 89 J10214

 

 

post-5613-0-25410200-1483629456_thumb.jpg

Salzburg Salzach bridge Class 4010 Sept 89 J10221

 

 

post-5613-0-82184800-1483629449_thumb.jpg

Salzburg Rainerstrasse bridge Class 1042 westbound l e Sept 89 J10225

 

 

David

  • Like 8
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

The 1063 which you have on one of your photos is a massive shunter with a top speed of 100km/h (62mph) - mainly used in Schwechat and Villach were the 2 central goods shunting stations of Austria are situated. With the top speed of 62mph and a weight of approximately 80 tons it can of course be used to haul light trains. What is sad is that the last time I saw the shunting station in Schwechat (last December) it was almost empty. Flying into Vienna at winds from eastern direction you can see the massive shunting station direct below the plane. And for everybody who is interested in models: Jaegerndorfer has a nice model of the 1063 in different versions. Of course I have it and I added a servo for the pantograph and Krois magnetic couplers (built in Schwechat by the way) on both ends to make it really a shunter...

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Great pics of Salzburg. I visited in 1989 also, but sadly didn't manage to get any pics.

 

However, Here is a pic of 1063 017 at Bischofshofen in 1995, which looks like it's working a local passenger service, but it's actually shunting empty coaching stock.

 

 

post-7898-0-26007800-1483634435_thumb.jpg

 

 

post-7898-0-06634900-1483634455_thumb.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Like 6
Link to post
Share on other sites

I think there may be some confusion here.  The 1063 class (and the later re-styled 1163) are BoBo locomotives (50 and 20 built, respectively) with a top speed of 100 km/h.  They are found throughout the ÖBB system (the first of the 1063 series are dual voltage), being designed for shunting and local trip working.  The larger CoCo 1064 class (10 built) are limited to 80 km/h and were built for heavy shunting at Villach and Wien/Kledering.  While I have numerous sightings/photographs of the 1063 and 1163, I have yet to get a decent sighting and photograph of a 1064.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

Really? That's quick then, as Google shows images from earlier in 2016 (late August) with quite a number of tanker cars for the local petrol-chemical industry and more on storage tracks at nearby Kaiserebersdorf. But no 1063. Btw, there's a NG works railway/tramway opposite Schwechat station which has a disproportionate number of SG/NG crossings!

 

Looked into google maps - from a distance the station looks saturated. If you go closer you will see that some of the trucks are not photos but look like fake. I cannot show it as there is copyright on google - but I have the impression only 8 trains in the station are real, all the rest is done with a (bad) software. And there is a 1063 at the southern end (next to a couple of larger locos)

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

I think there may be some confusion here.  The 1063 class (and the later re-styled 1163) are BoBo locomotives (50 and 20 built, respectively) with a top speed of 100 km/h.  They are found throughout the ÖBB system (the first of the 1063 series are dual voltage), being designed for shunting and local trip working.  The larger CoCo 1064 class (10 built) are limited to 80 km/h and were built for heavy shunting at Villach and Wien/Kledering.  While I have numerous sightings/photographs of the 1063 and 1163, I have yet to get a decent sighting and photograph of a 1064.

 

You are right, so what I saw on google maps must be a 1064 - but from birds view it is difficult to count axles.. :pardon_mini: 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Passenger workings with 1063s are rare, but in the 1980s, before the multi-voltage 'Taurus' locomotives, and at a time when the Iron Curtain was still down, the local service between Hohenau (Austria) and Breclav (Czechoslovakia) was run with 1063s which were dual-voltage.

 

This picture shows one backing down on to a train at Hohenau, after the 1042 which had worked the train from Wien Nord had been removed. The train was taken to Bernhardsthal, the last station in Austria before the Iron Curtain.

post-7003-0-87051700-1483648564.jpg

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

 

 

*there are 2 more actually: here and here, very, very dirty indeed!

 

These 2 links go to the Zentralverschiebebahnhof. And this is the place I mean. If you go further in where you have approximately 40 shunting tracks in parallel. Why some of the trucks are quite visible why others are like a blob of paint. In my opinion this is not really from the photo but looks like "improved" to me.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

Photos around Zell am See again today.

 

 

post-5613-0-09752300-1483715718_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1110 027 eastbound freight Sept 89 J10175

 

 

post-5613-0-16351600-1483715697_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1010 003 westbound Sept 89 J10188

 

 

post-5613-0-92620300-1483715723_thumb.jpg

Zell am See Class 1010 westbound freight Sept 89 J10195

 

 

post-5613-0-17404700-1483715703_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1042 608 Innsbruck to Wien Sept 89 J10207

 

 

post-5613-0-74775300-1483715711_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 1044 059 Wien to Beregenz Sept 89 J10251

 

 

David

  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

The narrow gauge Pinzgauer Bahn at Zell am See today.

 

It runs from Zell am See to Krimml.

 

 

post-5613-0-62601800-1483802643_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 2095 001 Krimml to Zell am See Sept 89 J10159

 

 

post-5613-0-42238100-1483802649_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 5090 002 Zell am See to Krimml Sept 89 J10168

 

 

post-5613-0-55244500-1483802637_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 2092 002 shunting standard gauge wagons Sept 9 J10169

 

 

post-5613-0-48050600-1483802631_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 2092 002 Sept 89 J10177

 

 

post-5613-0-13641100-1483802625_thumb.jpg

Zell am See 2092 002 and 4030 308 Worgl to Graz Sept 89 J10246

 

 

David

 

 

 

  • Like 14
Link to post
Share on other sites

A couple of photos from Belgium.

 

 

attachicon.gifHogne SNCB 147 northbound 26th July 78 C3924.jpg

Hogne SNCB 147 northbound 26th July 78 C3924

 

 

attachicon.gifHogne SNCB Type 66 061 southbound 26th July 78 C3926.jpg

Hogne SNCB Type 66 061 southbound 26th July 78 C3926

 

 

David

Hi David

Do you (or anyone else) know what the couplers are on those sets. They look like AAR (known in Britain as Buckeyes) but might be Willisons- It's relevant to an article I'm writing.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

Hi David

Do you (or anyone else) know what the couplers are on those sets. They look like AAR (known in Britain as Buckeyes) but might be Willisons- It's relevant to an article I'm writing.

 

 

Sorry, I don't know and don't have any details of Belgian stock to hand.

 

David

Edited by DaveF
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

A few photos from the north east of Switzerland today.

 

 

post-5613-0-85611500-1483888282_thumb.jpg

Kreuzlingen MThB ABDe4/4 13 Konstanz to Weinfelden 2nd Aug 88 C10000

 

 

post-5613-0-49710200-1483888289_thumb.jpg

Kreuzlingen Re4/4ii 11371 Schaffhausen to Rorschach 2nd Aug 88 C10002

 

 

post-5613-0-17031100-1483888308_thumb.jpg

Rorschach Re4/4ii Interlaken to Chur 1st Aug 88 C9923

 

 

post-5613-0-18272400-1483888304_thumb.jpg

Rorschach Re4/4ii 11388 1st Aug 88 C9925

 

 

post-5613-0-00676700-1483888297_thumb.jpg

Rorschach Ee3/3 16354 1st Aug 88 C9926

 

 

David

  • Like 12
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

A look at Uttendorf today.

 

Uttendorf is on the Pinzgauer Bahn between Zell am See and Krimml.

 

 

post-5613-0-60230900-1483975750_thumb.jpg

Uttendorf  Pinzgauerbahn 5090 001 Zell am See to Krimml Sept 89 J10238

 

 

post-5613-0-55757600-1483975756_thumb.jpg

Uttendorf  Pinzgauerbahn Sept 89 J10240

 

 

post-5613-0-27887100-1483975761_thumb.jpg

Uttendorf Pinzgauerbahn Sept 89 J10241

 

 

post-5613-0-01362300-1483975767_thumb.jpg

Uttendorf  Pinzgauerbahn Sept 89 J10242

 

 

post-5613-0-69465100-1483975772_thumb.jpg

Uttendorf  Pinzgauerbahn Sept 89 J10243

 

 

David

Edited by DaveF
  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

J10241 - I like the transporter wagons. Must be quite a job calculating if the outsize load is going to fit on the narrow-guage railway. I saw some similar wagons stacked up out of use last year at Innertkirchen, Switzerland.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Premium

J10241 - I like the transporter wagons. Must be quite a job calculating if the outsize load is going to fit on the narrow-guage railway. I saw some similar wagons stacked up out of use last year at Innertkirchen, Switzerland.

I suppose they will check it with a loading gauge - for me the interesting thing is that the center of gravity of those loaded trucks must be quite high - especially when they on the narrow gauge trolleys.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

More from Austria today.

 

 

post-5613-0-86535100-1484060524_thumb.jpg

Salzburg Salzach bridge DB Class 151 Sept 89 J10219

 

 

post-5613-0-50431000-1484060548_thumb.jpg

Schwarzach St Veit Class 4030 Sept 89 J10226

 

 

post-5613-0-18575000-1484060531_thumb.jpg

Schwarzach St Veit 1010 019 southbound l e Sept 89 J10227

 

 

post-5613-0-41852500-1484060537_thumb.jpg

Schwarzach St Veit 1044 007 and Class 1042 Sept 89 J10228

 

 

post-5613-0-94055300-1484060542_thumb.jpg

Schwarzach St Veit 1044 009 and Class 1042 and 1044 007 Sept 89 J10229

 

 

David

  • Like 10
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • RMweb Gold

Another visit to Belgium today to look at some trams along the coast.

 

 

post-5613-0-87038800-1484148348_thumb.jpg

Venduine Molem Tram 6037 Zeebrugge to Knokke 15th Aug 90 C15256

 

 

post-5613-0-47519800-1484148353_thumb.jpg

Venduine Molem Tram 6037 Zeebrugge to Knokke 15th Aug 90 C15257 Vicinal

 

 

post-5613-0-79787800-1484148358_thumb.jpg

Venduine Molem Tram 6037 Zeebrugge to Knokke 15th Aug 90 C15258

 

 

post-5613-0-13145000-1484148344_thumb.jpg

Venduine Molem Tram 15th Aug 90 C15259

 

Plus one of freight stock at Zeebrugge.

 

 

post-5613-0-64212400-1484148363_thumb.jpg

Zeebrugge 15th Aug 90 C15261

 

 

David

  • Like 7
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...