gr.king Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 We have a chip. ;>) Thanks to the local buffaloes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Somebody understands! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Somebody understands! He has a dry sense of humour. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 I got there in the end - I was lighting the fire at the time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 I got there in the end - I was lighting the fire at the time... I'm still working on it. . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted December 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2017 Look up Stubby's single rail Indian layout - the answer is there. I'll say no more to let the thread get back on topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post CF MRC Posted December 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2017 I was considering what I might do with one of these excellent models. Ideally I would represent a different class member in 1900s condition. There were several batches of these built, and, of course, there were changes. For instance, from c.1881, locos were built unpierced splashers, and the last batch (1894-5) had different cabs and a higher boiler pitch. Several were rebuilt with domed Ivatt boilers. I have my eye on a couple of prototypes from later batches and in 1900s condition, and I am currently considering how to derive them from the Rapido model. My first enquiry is to consider what the Rapido model represents as a starting point. The earlier batches were built 1870-1877. As the first of her kind, No.1 had unique features, but she and the rest of the early locos were rebuilt to more closely resemble later batches built 1880-1893. No.1's original dimensions differed from subsequent class members in having a shorter firebox (5' 6" as opposed to 6'2" on all subsequent locos), and this resulted in her frames being 8" shorter. That fact alone might sink any planned conversion. However, No.1's firebox was extended to 6' 2" in 1877 and her frames extended 8" accordingly. I have no reason to believe that she was restored to her 'as built' dimensions on preservation and, indeed, would have thought this most unlikely. Other changes were made in 1880, when her boiler was changed for one with a slightly increased external diameter of the boiler, as used by subsequent locos. I would guess that there was also a rise in boiler pitch to match subsequent locos. The splasher slots were apparently filled with a back plate at this time. I assume that No.1 is preserved with the longer firebox fitted in 1877, the boiler of the same dimensions as fitted from 1880, the deeper frames and larger trailing wheels fitted in 1880, but with open slots to the splasher. From the point of view of a conversion, I am guessing that the frame-depth and length, the firebox length, boiler dimensions and pitch, and larger trailing wheels modelled by Rapido are all suitable for built/rebuilt locos of the 1880s, and, so, favour the conversion I have in mind. For those locos built from 1881, the key differences from the Rapido model would seem to be: - lower cab sheets 3" longer (introduced on last 2 of earlier batches), except, apparently, 666-71. - dummy rear sandboxes (664 on) - variations in curve of mainframe ahead of the smoke box, which I really haven't got my head around yet, but with her rebuilt frames, preserved No.1 should resemble Nos. 662-71 (1881-3) in this regard. - Non-slotted splashers (save 662-3, but these blanked with a backing plate before the 1900s) - cast iron chimneys from 1885 - horizontal cab handrails to 1001 and 1002 I am not concerned with the last series or the Ivatt rebuilds. I think this leaves the best choice No. 668, a Boston locomotive in 1905, my chosen year. There is, I think, no extra length to the cab side sheet, and the front framing should be consistent with the rebuilt No.1. I think the main changes to the Rapido model would be: - non-slotted splasher - dummy rear Sanderson - remove side chains and add vac pipe stand - possibly replace the chimney (different by 1907) An alternative might be No. 8, a Peterborough (which suits me fine) loco since the 1890s, as she was an early series, and yet had survived without an Ivatt domed rebuild. The main difference in treatment, I believe, would be to apply a blanking plate behind the splasher slots (if there is room!). By my period, the splasher slots would be unlined green, same as the blanking plate. 668 was pictured at Peterborough in 1907. She had lost her safety chains by then, but might not have done so in 1905, as the discontinuance of side chains only commenced that year. I have a photograph on 668 in 1907, but have not, so far, seen a near contemporary picture of No. 8. There is one of No.7, but she was withdrawn just too soon, in February 1905. A further option is simply to stick with No. 1, which was in service until 1907 and based at Doncaster. I would have to assume a special/excursion from there. This would, I think, require the same treatment as No. 8, blank the slotted splasher to the rear and add a dummy rear sand-box. For earlier series locos with slotted splashers, from sometime in the 1890s the blanking plates would have been green and there would have been no lining to the apertures. I prefer the 1880s treatment, the slots remained lined and the blanking plate was black, but this would not do for 1905. If anyone can provide any corrections, suggestions or further information, I would be very grateful. The singles were effectively built in pairs. Number 547 would be a good choice James. It would fit the Rapido model condition (with false sandbox cover and filled splashers) and was long lasting. Somewhere, deep in the vaults, I have pictures of all sides of this engine. Photo by Craig Tiley, courtesy of RM. Merry Christmas everyone! Tim 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I do wish the full-size location still looked as good as that! The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted February 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2018 Morning everyone, while we're counting down to the Stirling Single release, here's a link to a different thread for people wondering what to put behind the Stirling Single... http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/111744-mike-trices-shapeways-shop-gnr-6-wheel-carriages-now-available/?p=3059646 I hope Mike doesn't mind me putting it here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I can hardly wait for the 00 Gauge model to come out! Not long now... So far, my improved Emily model is starting to take shape. The sprung buffers and dummy hooks have been added on, but it still needs vacuum pipes, handrails, a detailed interior and cab with checkered-plating on the floor and even a locomotive crew. Plus, I have thought about getting some non-corrdor clerestory coaches, paint them in dark green like Emily and make them her coaches though most modellers I would come across would use Emily's six-wheel coaches like in the TV Series; what do you think? Which should I use for Emily? I even made a poll about it. Please let me know. https://strawpoll.com/7eg6kz1f Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Good afternoon, all. Has there been any further update on when we can expect to see these gorgeous models? With the rash of beautiful pre-grouping models coming out from all over the place, I am having to carefully plan my finances for the rest of the year! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2018 Locomotion are saying end of April. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) I can hardly wait for the 00 Gauge model to come out! Not long now... So far, my improved Emily model is starting to take shape. The sprung buffers and dummy hooks have been added on, but it still needs vacuum pipes, handrails, a detailed interior and cab with checkered-plating on the floor and even a locomotive crew. Plus, I have thought about getting some non-corrdor clerestory coaches, paint them in dark green like Emily and make them her coaches though most modellers I would come across would use Emily's six-wheel coaches like in the TV Series; what do you think? Which should I use for Emily? I even made a poll about it. Please let me know. https://strawpoll.com/7eg6kz1f It looks like Emily's six-wheel coaches appear to be winning...although, on a personal note, I did have some bogie clerestory coaches in dark green in mind. Edited March 15, 2018 by LNWR18901910 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Letter from Locomotion. June at the latest.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Letter from Locomotion. June at the latest.... Which June? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Which June? Sarpong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Who's June Sarpong? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Who's June Sarpong? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=June+Sarpong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Yes, I got it,too. For now, I'll stick with my modded Bachmann Emily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Email from Locomotion. Order book closes at the end of April. Delivery still expected in June. Edited April 11, 2018 by spet0114 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I wish I had some money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris89 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Got the same email and just put through my order for the DCC one, Now just to get the money from Brother, he said would give for Birthday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I'm more than happy to wait until I can see from users' reports on production models that a proper job has been made of the Stirling Single. I'll then know whether I really want one. In the unlikely event that I miss the chance completely, I'll have lost nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 It was looking very good on the Rapido stand at York last month. I was already persuaded, but if further persuasion had been necessary ... This will be a great release. Rather than tart up third-rate products from clueless new entrants indifferent to accuracy, Locomotion/NRM should strive for high standards and maintain their brand integrity by collaborating only with the best - Rapido and Bachmann - and work through some other 'iconic' locomotives in the collection: - Johnson Spinner - Hardwicke - Gladstone - SE&CR D Class - NER Tenant - NER M Class - 1275 (NE 1001 Class) (in no particular order) The problem is, Rapido's No.1 will show what can really be done! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The problem is, Rapido's No.1 will show what can really be done! Trouble is, it'll also demonstrate the cost of doing what can really be done. Lord knows how much it'd cost if they were announcing it today. On all your other points, I'm in full agreement. Cheers Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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