dibber25 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Well, I asked if you fancied a Budd a few months back, and hey presto, there's a raft of Budd cars coming. So I'll push my luck and say, what about a proper VIA 900 class? Or am I the only one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 That bridge looks a whole lot of fun to build but I wouldn't want to travel over it in real life! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Henriksen Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Unlike the F40PH(-2), Amtrak modelers seem to be quite happy with the P40/42 that is available from Kato and Athearn so I would guess there isn't much demand for another model south of the border, which I have to guess makes the numbers work against your hope. Time may prove me wrong, but I have to think there are other oddball Canadian units that would sell better than an accurate VIA P42 and I don't see those other units getting done either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I happen to have a number of Athearn P40/P42 models (blue box) and had designated 2 for 'conversion' (read: repaint) in VIA colours. Not gonna happen anytime soon though For starters, no paint booth, no decals (do they exist?) and no paint colours either So, some VIA P42's would be welcome here (not too soon, there's a load of stuff on my wish list already and I can't pay for it all at once ) Microscale does make decals for the VIA P42's, so that solves half your quandary: http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=87-1153&Store_Code=MD&search=via+rail&offset=&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= The other half, well, the colour of VIA's P42's is as close to a UK style livery debate as we can get. Are the blue, are they green, are the metallic, are they flat. They've been all and the same all at once depending on when they were painted and how faded the paint is at that time. It's one were if you get ballpark on the paint, you can probably make a case that a VIA p42 looked like the model at some point in time! Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Microscale does make decals for the VIA P42's, so that solves half your quandary: http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=87-1153&Store_Code=MD&search=via+rail&offset=&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= The other half, well, the colour of VIA's P42's is as close to a UK style livery debate as we can get. Are the blue, are they green, are the metallic, are they flat. They've been all and the same all at once depending on when they were painted and how faded the paint is at that time. It's one were if you get ballpark on the paint, you can probably make a case that a VIA p42 looked like the model at some point in time! Stephen They have definitely been at least two different colours - this becomes very evident when you see a green unit running with a blue valance panel (from another loco). George's Trains just commissioned a custom run of VIA P42s from Athearn Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 They have definitely been at least two different colours - this becomes very evident when you see a green unit running with a blue valance panel (from another loco). George's Trains just commissioned a custom run of VIA P42s from Athearn Adrian The one in my picture is 905, an Athearn/Georges Trains limited edition in green. I fitted a cab interior. I also have 907 which is a repaint in blue by Dave Lowery and I've fitted that with DCC sound. I found that I couldn't have sound and a cab interior in the same loco because the sound chip is pretty big. I haven't attempted to modify the lights and end details on either of them. The story I heard about the colours was that the locomotives were prone to fires (there's a Safety Board report that shows why the fires occurred) and that the shop which renovated them after the fires only had the green paint that was being used on the F40 rebuilds, so they used that. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The one in my picture is 905, an Athearn/Georges Trains limited edition in green. I fitted a cab interior. I also have 907 which is a repaint in blue by Dave Lowery and I've fitted that with DCC sound. I found that I couldn't have sound and a cab interior in the same loco because the sound chip is pretty big. I haven't attempted to modify the lights and end details on either of them. The story I heard about the colours was that the locomotives were prone to fires (there's a Safety Board report that shows why the fires occurred) and that the shop which renovated them after the fires only had the green paint that was being used on the F40 rebuilds, so they used that. CHRIS LEIGH There were green and blue ones before they started the F40 rebuilds and had metallic green paint available. One story I heard was that the green ones were used for Atlantic Canada (east of Montreal) and the blue ones on the Montreal-Windsor corridor. I don't know if that is true, but I have seen a blue loco with a (non-metallic) green valence panel. Here is a faded blue one Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The colours of the VIA P42 is something that doesn't seem to photograph well. Though they have definitely been metallic and non-metallic. The colours also seem very different in different lighting conditions Into the Light by Stephen Gardiner, on Flickr VIA Servicing at TMC by Stephen Gardiner, on Flickr I wish i had a good answer to give on paint matching for them, but i really don't, but its a good talking point to try and figure out what the right green/blue is. Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Here are some photos of the same loco (904) at different points in its life. Compare the colour to the blue stripe on the LRC coaches. It may all be down to the light and/or the way the paint ages, but... 2003: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1910533 2009: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1734787 2010: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2306793 And this one from 2009 - compare with the trailing unit. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1534287 Note that these photos all predate the metallic green repaints. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Craig Watson Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2015 Athearn did at least two running numbers in their "Ready to Roll" range, I have 919, Donny4472 on here has the other, the blue/green is really dark though. Cheers Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjgardiner Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Athearn did at least two running numbers in their "Ready to Roll" range, I have 919, Donny4472 on here has the other, the blue/green is really dark though. 919 web.jpg Cheers Craig It is very dark, though i actually quite like the dark metallic look of the first edition Athearns. Via P42 by Stephen Gardiner, on Flickr Edit: I also finally found on my Flickr a shot i couldn't find before. VIA P42's at the Distillery by Stephen Gardiner, on Flickr Two different colours in one place! -Stephen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Craig Watson Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 29, 2015 Better picture than mine, shows the colour of the Athearn early ones perfectly, mine will do for now, I'll hopefully pick up some LRC cars to haul with it when I visit in July! Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just to muddy the waters here's 917 a few years back. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just to muddy the waters here's 917 a few years back. VIA 917a.JPG Cheers, David That is the colour that Kato used for their N-scale P42. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 At least no one can say "The colour on that model is wrong." My blue one - the repaint - is in National Power blue IIRC. I have a George's Trains green one, which is metallic. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This weekend I saw a VIA train which had a top-n-tailed set of LRC coaches J-ed with a set of stainless coaches. The lead P42 appeared to be in metallic green, matching the first (refurbished) LRC coach. The rest of the LRC coaches were in the standard scheme. The second P42 was in green as in post #14 and the third one was in blue as in post #8. There were 3 different loco liveries and 3 different coach liveries in the same train. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 The main feature of the 900s at present seems to be the appalling state ( I understand VIA has no money for cleaning) of the exteriors - particularly the ones in the original blue, which are now way past the date for a repaint. Topping the list is 911 which boasts a carpet of bugs, so deep that it appears to have a doormat stuck to the front! This patch is surrounded by missing paint and patches of rusty bare metal. 909 has fewer bugs but more rust. I think I may have some interesting weathering jobs to do as I like to model locos that I've had haulage by. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Craig Watson Posted July 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2015 I picked up the latest one from George's Trains on Sunday, no 920, managed to give it a run with my LRC coaches on a visit to the Pine Ridge Model Railroaders layout in Oshawa yesterday morning, there are a few pics on my layout thread. Cheers Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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