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The truck, though, didn't last very long. According to the DVLA, it was first registered in September 1986 and last ran out of tax in April 1990, so was on the road for less than 4 years.

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6 hours ago, PatB said:

The truck, though, didn't last very long. According to the DVLA, it was first registered in September 1986 and last ran out of tax in April 1990, so was on the road for less than 4 years.

Probably exported, there is (was?) a large market for ex-UK trucks where drive on the left was the rule. Places such as Malta, Cyprus and many Caribbean islands.

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5 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

Probably exported, there is (was?) a large market for ex-UK trucks where drive on the left was the rule. Places such as Malta, Cyprus and many Caribbean islands.

There are frequent sightings of these pre loaded on roll on roll of containers at Tees Dock!

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3 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

LMS Weighing Machine van at Derby Works 1964

 

 

 

There were at least two of these at Derby. 

 

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsdepartmentalcoach/ebd98ae5

https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsdepartmentalcoach/e111ede82

 

And my two wagons for this topic are dropside open merchandise - but not from known batches of such wagons. 

 

W 27038   https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwropenmerchandiseowv/e38ec2d7a   https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/gwropenmerchandiseowv/e246d8fdc

 

ADB477060 https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/br5pldropside/e393f7981  https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/br5pldropside/e3cd6cf52

 

Paul

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2 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Dover Town Yard 1989

 

The caption says  "This wagon was used for a flow from Almwich or Ellesmere Port to Antwerp for shipping to Cuba." and that it carried Aluminium Alkyl Halides.

 

09002_11-7-1989

 

can anyone make out the wagon number? There are several possible diagrams.

 

Jon

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On 30/05/2021 at 11:52, PhilJ W said:

Probably exported, there is (was?) a large market for ex-UK trucks where drive on the left was the rule. Places such as Malta, Cyprus and many Caribbean islands.

 

Drive on the left in Malta may have been the rule, but practical experience says otherwise!

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, newbryford said:

 

Drive on the left in Malta may have been the rule, but practical experience says otherwise!

 

 

 

 

I once heard a story about someone who was in Malta and asked a policeman why the traffic was so chaotic. He calmly explained to them "in some countries they drive on the left, in some countries they drive on the right - here, we drive in the shade..."

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On 30/05/2021 at 11:52, PhilJ W said:

Probably exported, there is (was?) a large market for ex-UK trucks where drive on the left was the rule. Places such as Malta, Cyprus and many Caribbean islands.

Guyana was the country I most noticed such exports - but in their case almost invariably ex military. Mostly the military version of the Bedford TK but some much heavier trucks as well. 

 

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51 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Scenery Van at Leeds Central 1976

 

4606_1976_07_Leeds

 

 

 

I had no idea that Scenery Vans were still about that late. Do you know if it was fulfilling its intended purpose, or on some other traffic?

 

GNR/LNER origins?

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I think the 'S' number might be a clue as to its origin - and resemblance to a certain recent Hornby product.

S4606S was the final Scenery van turned out by Lancing in 1949 and lasted a further five years in traffic before entering internal use ( where ? ) in Feb.'81. Somehow became British Steel property and was donated to the Gwili Railway in 1993 ...... they didn't know what to do with it and couldn't find anyone to offload it to so the metal bits returned to the steel industry in 2012.

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7 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

I think the 'S' number might be a clue as to its origin - and resemblance to a certain recent Hornby product.

S4606S was the final Scenery van turned out by Lancing in 1949 and lasted a further five years in traffic before entering internal use ( where ? ) in Feb.'81. Somehow became British Steel property and was donated to the Gwili Railway in 1993 ...... they didn't know what to do with it and couldn't find anyone to offload it to so the metal bits returned to the steel industry in 2012.

Some were modified to carry elephants for touring circumstances, though ,more prosaically, it was mails and parcels that they were used for most of the time. All the 'Big 4' had scenery vans on the books- having end-doors, they could be used for carrying cars.

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On 28/05/2021 at 19:20, montyburns56 said:

I've always been fascinated by these Minilink wagons. Has anyone ever seen them modelled?

 

Railfreight '89 exhibition at Cricklewood

 

"Mini Link" Multimodal demonstration at Railfreight '89 exhibition at Cricklewood

 

Cricklewood  Rail Freight Exhibition 18/04/1989

 

One still in use at Merehead.

 

DSCF1316

 

 

ISTR there was a kit for the containers. Can't remember who made them though. Possibly a resin cast.

 

I think that Charlie at DC Kits used to sell them, but that might be a false memory.

 

Fox certainly did the transfers for them and considering they are in the old FMR packaging must be pretty old.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOX-TRANSFERS-SPEEDLINK-DISTRIBUTION-MAXI-AND-MINI-LINK-REF-F111-/131842996099

 

 

Jason

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4SRKT engine carrier at Eastleigh, 11th October 2005.

Used to move DEMU engines between Eastleigh and St Leonards ( and maybe other works).

I believe one is preserved at St Leonards.

Are the Eastleigh vehicles still there?

 

Would make an interesting model!

DSC00918.JPG

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3 minutes ago, 34101 said:

4SRKT engine carrier at Eastleigh, 11th October 2005.

Used to move DEMU engines between Eastleigh and St Leonards ( and maybe other works).

I believe one is preserved at St Leonards.

Are the Eastleigh vehicles still there?

 

Would make an interesting model!

DSC00918.JPG

Probably converted using the chassis from a redundant revenue wagon. Anyone got any idea as to the source of the underframe? (I could be completely wrong and it could have been built as such anyway.)

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15 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

Probably converted using the chassis from a redundant revenue wagon. Anyone got any idea as to the source of the underframe? (I could be completely wrong and it could have been built as such anyway.)

Paul Bartlett has info at

https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/enginecarrierzrw

 - specially built at Ashford.

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29 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

Thanks for that. I thought it looked like a brake van underframe. An interesting wagon in one of the photographs is the yellow painted Lowmac adapted to carry wheelsets.

I always felt it was closer in relationship to the Creosote tanks built for BR/ Airfix-Heljan TSV.

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