montyburns56 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I'm guessing that these were something to do with Plasmor. POA Ripple Lane By Huw Millington 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 It's time to dig out your old Hornby models! Campbell's Soup and Procor PVA By Huw Millington 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: I'm guessing that these were something to do with Plasmor. POA Ripple Lane By Huw Millington Something to do with your unwanted VCA, cut the roof off and throw away the doors! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Or something to do with your unwanted Hornby Ferry van https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brchubb Paul 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted June 10, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2021 15 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Something to do with your unwanted VCA, cut the roof off and throw away the doors! I didn't realise they were VCAs, do any VCAs still exist now? They used to be used as stores vans as ZRAs I seem to recall 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 55 minutes ago, russ p said: I didn't realise they were VCAs, do any VCAs still exist now? They used to be used as stores vans as ZRAs I seem to recall The ZRAs became redundant almost as soon as Unipart took over spares distribution. Some had the bodies removed completely, and became coal container carriers (FPA). Others lost roofs and sides to become block carriers. There may be some left in the engineers' fleet, but there haven't been any in revenue traffic for a very long time. I think the last revenue work was tinplate from Trostre to various Metal Box sites. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 21 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Something to do with your unwanted VCA, cut the roof off and throw away the doors! Oh right, I'd just presumed that they were OBA conversions like the other Plasmor wagons. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Odd only in terms of livery, but I've not seen this before. The caption says that they worked between Hem Heath Colliery and Barlaston Power Station, but on the wagon it says they work between Florence Colliery and Meaford??? Power station. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: Odd only in terms of livery, but I've not seen this before. The caption says that they worked between Hem Heath Colliery and Barlaston Power Station, but on the wagon it says they work between Florence Colliery and Meaford??? Power station. These were originally built for the West Midlands Joint Electricity Authority for traffic to Ironbridge in the 1930's, they remained as PO wagons and were used in the Stoke on Trent area to Meaford till the late 1970's. These were then used at Meaford as Internal Users till the mid 80's. In effect they are the RCH all steel 20 ton mineral without doors! The model from Dapol/Airfix/Hornby is only suitable for the first 17 as these had side and end doors; as such were pooled in 1939 but all others remained as non Pool wagons. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Saunders said: These were originally built for the West Midlands Joint Electricity Authority for traffic to Ironbridge in the 1930's, they remained as PO wagons and were used in the Stoke on Trent area to Meaford till the late 1970's. These were then used at Meaford as Internal Users till the mid 80's. In effect they are the RCH all steel 20 ton mineral without doors! The model from Dapol/Airfix/Hornby is only suitable for the first 17 as these had side and end doors; as such were pooled in 1939 but all others remained as non Pool wagons. Florence Colliery was on a branch from Hem's Heath; my wife's uncle (and god father), Stan Collis was a driver there. Meaford Power Station is at Barlaston 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 A few more here, the five figure numbers are their TOPS numbers. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/cegbtippler Paul 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Does anyone know what the sheeted wagon is? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 The caption and comments pretty much point to one of the Tiger POA/PNAs built by C.C. Crump. I'd agree that the tarpauline is unusual. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 22 hours ago, BernardTPM said: The caption and comments pretty much point to one of the Tiger POA/PNAs built by C.C. Crump. I'd agree that the tarpauline is unusual. D'oh! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Riddle me this....what looks like a HAA , but is actually a PGA? By Huw Millington 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, montyburns56 said: Riddle me this....what looks like a HAA , but is actually a PGA? For those that don’t know, hoppers for the Mountfield (Sussex, on the narrow Hastings line) to Northfleet APCM/BlueCircle flow of gypsum for cement making. That flow invariably hauled by a 33/2. Think they escaped elsewhere at one point. Photo of the train here (scroll a bit): And here: Edited June 13, 2021 by eastwestdivide 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 These these aren't that odd as they were KAA wagons, but the trailers definitely are. Apparently they were built for a Blue Circle flow from Westbury to Southampton in the early 2000s. This one is interesting as the last three wagons seem to have something different on them. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 It was one of the experiments supported by the Strategic Rail Authority to draw new flows on to rail. Another, at about the same time, was the lineside loading of timber on to short rakes of OTAs, sandwiched between two MTV 'tractor units', whilst a third moved containers in the same manner. None was a great success The vehicles towards the end of the train in the last photo were curtain-sided trailers with sloping sides. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: The vehicles towards the end of the train in the last photo were curtain-sided trailers with sloping sides. These were the ones for bagged cement! I saw them once at Earles. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 How about these Palvans? Quote 23 ½ T Palvan Airbrake vacuum pipe Tare 12T--- Des. Code PV003A Gloucester RCW 1968] @ Luton 79-10-14 https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/modavan/h87E17A18#h87e17a18 Thanks to Paul Bartlett for a rare picture of any of them. I learnt about these while looking at Ludgershall on the M&SWJR. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 PFA Cardiff Tidal Yard Mossend Garelochhead 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 The Cobra one is a real container and is much earlier than the EMR demountable ones that are more recent! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: The Cobra one is a real container and is much earlier than the EMR demountable ones that are more recent! I remember those Cobra containers at Derwenthaugh; some went to traffic from Boulby after Derwenthaugh closed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Fat Controller said: I remember those Cobra containers at Derwenthaugh; some went to traffic from Boulby after Derwenthaugh closed. The Derwenthaugh traffic was coke to Wakefield for the local hospital and was carried on FEW’s . The Boulby traffic was salt to Middlesbrough Goods plus at one stage a small fleet of PFA’s as in the one at the top using former tank chassis! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Fat Controller said: I remember those Cobra containers at Derwenthaugh; some went to traffic from Boulby after Derwenthaugh closed. I've managed to find a picture of a different style of container on a bogie wagon at Derwenthaugh. And a train of them at York. Normanton 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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