Model Bus Repaints

[crompton 33]

Southdown NBC Bristol FS  Atlas model    Removed all the Transfers in 10 min's with Nail varnish remover and cotton bud's . IMGP0449 by ALF WESTLEY, on Flickr  New Decals from Modelmaster.

Edited May 23, 2018 by crompton 33

[crompton 33]

One more on the workbench . This time a OOC southdown Leyland PD3 . All Paint removed Ready for primer . Then a respray in what colour any idea's.  IMGP0451 by ALF WESTLEY, on Flickr

Edited July 2, 2018 by crompton 33

[mikeharvey22]

That PD3 could look good in Top Deck Travel livery. I know they were keen on Lodekkas which could run anywhere in Europe without bashing overbridges, but you could focus on a UK usage. If you do not want to remodel the interior for sleeping and feeding there are lots of windows you could blank out crudely, but otherwise a straightforward repaint.

 

https://cms.topdeck.travel/images/images/media/Topdeck-Old-Buses.jpg

 

http://www.indiaoverland.biz/overland/operators/images/TopDeck/topdeck-bus1.jpg

 

 

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2255/2239812852_835009bd6e_z.jpg?zz=1

[crompton 33]

Southdown PD3 now a Driver Trainer . The panel just to the rear of the driver as been cut out and replaced with a window . From a EFE Atlantean .  IMGP0454 by ALF WESTLEY, on Flickr

Edited July 16, 2018 by crompton 33

[wamwig]

Here are some current repaint WiP's, all to eventually become London Country SNB vehicles, at least they have a good coat of NBC Leaf Green, hopefully they wont take too long to finish!

Edited August 5, 2018 by wamwig

[crompton 33]

Southdown Bristol Lodekka FS by OOC . Been sitting at the back of the workbench for a few years. Time to change it to NBC . This will go up for sale like some of the models above have.     ,  IMGP0455 by ALF WESTLEY, on Flickr

Edited August 26, 2018 by crompton 33

[crompton 33]

Update as it's been a while .  EFE code 3 Ex green Line Leyland Nationals. Now with Maidstone & District .  On the 495 to Hastings.  These will go up for Sale, With the Southdown Bristol FS open top above.  IMGP0459 by ALF WESTLEY, on Flickr

Edited February 28, 2019 by crompton 33

[Johann Marsbar]

The old EFE flat fronted Daimler Fleetline model could be turned into a half-decent representation of one of these.......

 

 

I did repaint one of them into its previous Ipswich Corporation colours.

 

If you attack it with a hacksaw, you could even do the open-top version!

 

 

 

[crompton 33]

I have done a roof chop on a southdown Guy before as somebody wanted one .  I used a Dremel to cut the roof off . Yes the Fleetline is a good one to do as i've got one spare.  Transfers are easy to get .  Was  go'ing to do a Alexander Y in Eastbourne Livery as they had one in the 1980's.

[crompton 33]

Long time since last update. OOC  EX Southdown . Leyland Leopard/Willowbrook bet body. Full respray to a  Maidstone & District NBC D/P.  This was ex Davies of Rye taken over by M&D. 

Edited December 27, 2020 by crompton 33

[Les Bird]

I've always preferred earlier liveries to those of the National Bus Company but the dual purpose version is a bit better than the overall schemes. Your model looks very smart.

Edited December 28, 2020 by Les Bird

[PhilJ W]

The NBC colours were rather bland, red or green. There were other colours that companies within the NBC empire could use but only one did so. The Notts and Derby chose blue but it didn't last long as they were soon absorbed into a red or green company.

[fodenway]

East Yorkshire (EYMS) were also blue. Didn't Northern retain yellow for a while, or am I mistaken?

[PhilJ W]

1 hour ago, fodenway said:

East Yorkshire (EYMS) were also blue. Didn't Northern retain yellow for a while, or am I mistaken?

East Yorkshire like Notts and Derby also disappeared into another group. In both instances before the entire fleet was repainted. The Northern 'Yellow' fleet were painted that colour for routes that were shared with Newcastle Corporation,  the original Northern colour was red.

[northernblue109]

The four blue NBC subsidiaries were Midland General, East Yorkshire, Sunderland District and Jones of Aberbeeg (all adopted slightly different shades). Northern General and its subsidiaries adopted yellow for services within the Tyneside (later Tyne & Wear) PTE area prior to adopting the full PTE yellow and white livery.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernblue109/5776098357/in/album-72157628652705215/

[JDW]

With apologies for going slightly O/T, reading the above I have always wondered: why did most NBC companies choose red or green when blue or yellow were options? OK, yellow might be a bit left-field, but blue was a common bus colour as well as red and green, yet most chose those two. Was it do do with deliveries of new buses? Ease of tansferring between fleets? But in those cases, it's just as likely to be red instead of green as blue or yellow. Or was it just a case of "it was how it was"?

[PhilJ W]

The NBC was formed from two separate bus companies. The nationalised Tilling Group and the privately owned BET group. The Tilling group had two basic liveries, red and green but there was many variations in how colours were distributed even within individual companies. Principally the amount of cream applied and where on the bus. The BET group had a variety of colours and shades but they were required to comply with the corporate image which meant that the distinctive liveries of some companies such as Southdown green disappeared. The vast majority of the BET companies had various shades of green or red but in that there was an enormous variation in shades of colour, red for example varied from an almost orange colour to a deep reddish brown. There was also the problem that blue  did not weather all that well.

[northernblue109]

The only real choice was between red and green. Blue wasn't a freely available option and was only used with special dispensation, possibly where existing paint stocks were exceptionally large. This is why there was no standard NBC blue, just a range of pre-NBC blues (East Yorkshire and Sunderland District being noticeably darker than the other two). Jones may have received preferential treatment, given that it was maintained as a small autonomous unit for NBC management training. Yellow was a colour imposed upon the NBC under its operating agreement with the Tyneside PTE.

Edited December 30, 2020 by northernblue109

[divibandit]

Evening everyone,

I'm enjoying this thread but I have a question.

Does anyone know of a match for Ulsterbus blue? It's a mid blue, not dissimilar to Jones of Aberbeeg.

I know the cream/ivory is a Cherry/Precision colour.

Steve

[Johann Marsbar]

48 minutes ago, divibandit said:

Evening everyone,

I'm enjoying this thread but I have a question.

Does anyone know of a match for Ulsterbus blue? It's a mid blue, not dissimilar to Jones of Aberbeeg.

I know the cream/ivory is a Cherry/Precision colour.

Steve

 

This is the obviously the colour you are looking for.....

 

 

I've looked at the Humbrol paint chart and nothing their really matches, and I expect Revell to be the same. None of the Revell blues I have match it.

 

It may pay you to think of other sources of paint, as when I was trying to match a blue for some G-Scale models I was kitbashing/scratchbuilding, I actually ended up using a B&Q domestic paint which was called "Moody Blue" that wasn't that far off the shade I wanted. It looks nearer to the Ulsterbus blue than what is on the Humbrol paint chart as well!!

 

 

 

[crompton 33]

I used spray can's On the M&D above. Halfords grey primer.  The white was VW alpine . NBC Green i had made up at my local motor factors.  Happy new year keep safe.

Edited December 31, 2020 by crompton 33

[laurenceb]

When NBC was formed the idea was that everything was going to be painted red - no exceptions, but a number of managers rebeled and  as a compromise green was allowed

[divibandit]

On 31/12/2020 at 14:21, Johann Marsbar said:

 

This is the obviously the colour you are looking for.....

 

 

I've looked at the Humbrol paint chart and nothing their really matches, and I expect Revell to be the same. None of the Revell blues I have match it.

 

It may pay you to think of other sources of paint, as when I was trying to match a blue for some G-Scale models I was kitbashing/scratchbuilding, I actually ended up using a B&Q domestic paint which was called "Moody Blue" that wasn't that far off the shade I wanted. It looks nearer to the Ulsterbus blue than what is on the Humbrol paint chart as well!!

 

 

 

Thanks Johann, that's very useful, I'd better get on to their website but I might have to wait a while to pick it up.

Steve

[fiftyfour fiftyfour]

On 28/12/2020 at 23:03, northernblue109 said:

The four blue NBC subsidiaries were Midland General, East Yorkshire, Sunderland District and Jones of Aberbeeg (all adopted slightly different shades). Northern General and its subsidiaries adopted yellow for services within the Tyneside (later Tyne & Wear) PTE area prior to adopting the full PTE yellow and white livery.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/northernblue109/5776098357/in/album-72157628652705215/

Just for fun someone has done a Northern Olympian in cobalt blue NBC style...