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A quick update;

 

I've been having a go at the backhead and it's had an initial few splashes of paint. I've also made a regulator out of a bit of brass wire so it has a bit more shape to it than the flat one in the kit. I realise I've fitted the regulator in full open, so the fireman will be rather cross I imagine! 

 

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I've had to guess at what it should actually look like, so if anyone can spot any errors or omissions, please do let me know! Finding a photo of a G5 cab is not easy! I have seen the GA drawings which have helped. 

 

I know I'll have to fashion a couple of gauges to mount on the cab sheet but I'm not sure how many, or where they should be in relation to the whistle pipes which emerge from the top of the firebox. 

 

Hopefully someone will be able to shed a bit more light on the situation! 

 

Cheers

 

J

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Well, as it was the York show a couple of weeks ago, I finally managed to get a nice big sheet of lead, and after a couple of experiments have rolled a nose weight to pretty much fill the forward section of the boiler. Weighing in at 8oz, it certainly keeps the front end down when running in both directions! I've added a bit under the running boards ahead of the front wheels too. The bogie was a bit light, so that's got a couple of bits in to aid road holding, but as that's separate from the main assembly, it doesn't affect the balance. Out of interest, I had the whole loco on the scales too, and it tipped them at just over 2lb so should be more than capable of handling a typical load for the class.

 

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I've finally got the balance weights onto the wheels, and the remaining boiler washout plugs fitted, so hopefully it should be about ready for final cleaning and then some paint can go on! 

 

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It's still a bit growly when running, but hopefully that'll ease with time, and maybe some adjustment of the motor/gear spacing. 

 

 

I have been pottering around with some other bits and bobs too, but I'll get to those on here once the G5 has advanced a bit more!

 

As always, comments and advice are always welcome!

 

Cheers

 

J

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This weekend is Whitby MRC's annual exhibition at Goathland village hall, so yesterday (Saturday) I popped up to have a browse and provide a progress update to my dad (he's a member of the club).

 

As I wanted my progress to be a suprise, I haven't posted anything on here. Now however, I can update you all!

 

First things first. The remainder of the detail has been added, including the vacuum and Westinghouse pipes below the running plate which were bent from a single piece of brass wire for each side (that took a bit of trial and error). Once all that was done, and the whole thing give a good clean, it received a coat of red oxide and, to be honest, looked pretty good! Have no fear, no Crimson Lake was going on!

 

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The buffer beams were painted Signal Red and once dry masked off before the initial coat of Matt black. The smokebox was then masked off and the whole thing got it's top coat of semi gloss black.

 

Fortunately nothing had gone wrong when the masking was removed and I could go about doing some of the finer painting. Brass on the safety valve bonnet (which would have been easier if I'd not already fitted it!) and the whistles, and then bare and varnished wood on most surfaces in the cab, and black elsewhere.

 

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The loco is still awaiting lining and numbers, but it had a run out on the under construction club layout 'Spital Bridge', there's a thread for it under the layouts section on here ( https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/132288-spital-bridge-whitby-mrcs-7mm-urban-blt/ )

 

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The loco rolled nicely through the pointwork, though the wheels could do with a clean, but the nose weight kept the driving wheels doing their job. I hadn't fitted couplings, so it couldn't be tested under load. Eventually it'll be fitted with Dinghams, but I don't have any to hand.

 

 

To get to Goathland, I incorporated a trip on the NYMR. So, for the first time in a good few years, a G5 has traversed the Pickering to Grosmont route! Hopefully the new build one will do it properly once it's complete!

 

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So now, I need to practice my lining before attacking further! 

 

I forgot to take any photos of the completed cab, so shall update with those in due course.

 

Cheers

 

J

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At last, some decorative progress on the G5! (I hope you were sitting down for that staggering bit of news!)

Despite my best efforts, I can't get my lining by hand consistent enough, so have gone down the transfer route. The narrowest red lines (and corners) I could find are from the Fox range, and are still too thick, so I'm having to thin them myself. This is fine for the straight lines where a steel ruler and a sharp blade are the order of the day, but getting the corner prices done is a little trickier!

Anyhow, I've got one tank done so far and it doesn't look too bad. There's room for improvement I think, but it certainly passes the three foot rule (especially if the loco is moving!) Nothing is sealed down with varnish (or light weathering) yet so there is still scope for adjustment as I've found to my cost when adding to what I already thought was dry and ended up having to redo some fiddly bits around the cab!

Anyhow, do let me know what you think (I'm aware how cruel a camera can be, it's already highlighted a couple of issues!)

 

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Other than the G5, I've been carrying on with various other projects; several pre-grouping wagons are in various stages of construction and one day I'll have a suitable goods yard to shove them around! My North Eastern Kits NER E (J71 in new money) has had its chassis dismantled, painted and re-assembled and it still works! It's spent quite a while on the rolling road, and is getting much smoother so it won't be long before that gets painted.

 

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With Narrow Gauge North looming (Saturday 14th March) my thoughts turned a few weeks ago to something new for the show, and I have started putting together an old Chris Leigh kit of L&B saloon No.2, as currently preserved in the NRM. As my layout, Scrayingham, is set not far from York, it seemed a sensible 'local' choice and it will be painted in a slightly tidier version of the green and off-white livery the real thing now sports. It's an interesting build, the instructions suggesting making the underframe from card and gluing the etched sides together. I've substituted laminated layers of plastic sheet for the floor, and soldered the main body. I've also swapped the kit bogies for Peco ones and I think I've got the ride height sorted now too. There are some lovely castings for the interior, and these still seem to sit at the right height inside, so my altered floor hasn't affected things too much thankfully!

 

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There are a few other things in the works, but that'll do for now I think! As ever, any comments/suggestions are gratefully received, and thanks for reading!

 

Cheers

 

J

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7 minutes ago, micklner said:

Have you tried the HMRS LNER Lining ,they do it in 7 and 4mm scales.

 

I did look at them, but i felt that as the majority of the sheet is the white/black/white and black lining and it would probably end up going to waste. The red lining I have will be able to be cut down further for 4mm (hopefully). I will keep them in mind though if I feel it's not progressing well enough.

 

Cheers

 

J

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      I would go for the HMRS version personally. When you get this far,I wouldnt worry about a few left over transfers. The end result is the important bit.  Put the leftovers on ebay someone will buy them.

     Cutting down to 4mm? good luck with that idea, again not worth the aggravation ,as no two would ever be exactly the same width.

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11 minutes ago, micklner said:

  Put the leftovers on ebay someone will buy them.

     Cutting down to 4mm? good luck with that idea, again not worth the aggravation ,as no two would ever be exactly the same width.

 

That thought had crossed my mind, or, worse still I end up needing them for something in green (I'd be fine with that option, not sure the domestic management would!) I think I'll investigate come pay-day!

 

I keep trying to convince myself that them being almost the same width would be fine, deep down, I know I couldn'tlive with it!

 

Cheers

 

J

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4 hours ago, JaymzHatstand said:

At last, some decorative progress on the G5! (I hope you were sitting down for that staggering bit of news!)

Despite my best efforts, I can't get my lining by hand consistent enough, so have gone down the transfer route. The narrowest red lines (and corners) I could find are from the Fox range, and are still too thick, so I'm having to thin them myself. This is fine for the straight lines where a steel ruler and a sharp blade are the order of the day, but getting the corner prices done is a little trickier!

Anyhow, I've got one tank done so far and it doesn't look too bad. There's room for improvement I think, but it certainly passes the three foot rule (especially if the loco is moving!) Nothing is sealed down with varnish (or light weathering) yet so there is still scope for adjustment as I've found to my cost when adding to what I already thought was dry and ended up having to redo some fiddly bits around the cab!

Anyhow, do let me know what you think (I'm aware how cruel a camera can be, it's already highlighted a couple of issues!)

 

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I've used Fox .35mm lining https://fox-transfers.co.uk/general-alphabets-linings/lining-in-red-33596 and it doesn't look too bad, maybe a little thick for 4mm scale, which one are you using? it looks thicker in 7mm than mine does in 4mm. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/3252-worsdell-forevers-workbench-loads-of-north-eastern-stuff/&do=findComment&comment=3825219

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, JaymzHatstand said:

Yeah, I've just had a check, and it would seem that I'd ordered the wrong set, these are .75, hence why I was trimming them! Looks like either a re-order, or a set of HMRS are on their way come pay-day!

 

Mia culpa!

 

Cheers

 

J

 

I used HMRS once, nothing but hard work, they only do lining in pressfix and once they're on that's it and getting any length of line straight first time is all but impossible.

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Never caused me any problems. They can be adjusted with a wood cocktail stick or similar before wetting the tissue using a metal rule for straightness at the same time.

 

e.g below in 4mm, 7mm hopefully easier.

 

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I finally got around to acquiring some Fox lining of the right width, and what a difference it has made! I've been slowly doing bits and have finally got to a stage where it's worth showing. The whole of the m Im side is done, along with the boiler bands and the lines wrapped around the rear (fun ito get in behind the lamp irons!)

 

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I also found a lovely colour photo of a G5 in lined black which highlighted a couple of bits I hadn't thought of (Westinghouse pump and steps) so the have been duly lined too. I just happened to be thumbing through LNER Locomotives In Colour 1936-1948 by Ron White and Norman Johnston, and there it was, for some reason, I'd not noticed it before!

 

Now I'm past the half way point, I'll hopefully not think that it can just run that way round, and hide the un-decorated side from viewers! Mainly because I know that some sort of unscrupulous mischief maker would turn it round at some stage, just for giggles!

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I have been pottering with other things as well, but I haven't really done much in a completion sense. I kee seeing things that other people have been cracking on with, and finding inspiration for projects of my own, but the only things I've really done anything significant with have been a Worsley Works 009 Ffestiniog Super Saloon (scratch aid kit, so a lot had to be home made) which is now ready for painting, and a Parkside 8 plank P/O wagon which has been built, painted and weathered.

 

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I'll keep chipping away, and posting updates when I remember to! As ever, all comments, suggestions or advice are welcome, and I hope you're all carrying on as best you can!

 

Cheers

 

J

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2 hours ago, JaymzHatstand said:

I finally got around to acquiring some Fox lining of the right width, and what a difference it has made! I've been slowly doing bits and have finally got to a stage where it's worth showing. The whole of the m Im side is done, along with the boiler bands and the lines wrapped around the rear (fun ito get in behind the lamp irons!)

 

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I also found a lovely colour photo of a G5 in lined black which highlighted a couple of bits I hadn't thought of (Westinghouse pump and steps) so the have been duly lined too. I just happened to be thumbing through LNER Locomotives In Colour 1936-1948 by Ron White and Norman Johnston, and there it was, for some reason, I'd not noticed it before!

 

Now I'm past the half way point, I'll hopefully not think that it can just run that way round, and hide the un-decorated side from viewers! Mainly because I know that some sort of unscrupulous mischief maker would turn it round at some stage, just for giggles!

 

Who would do a thing like that? 

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