RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 21, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2016 Had my mitts on a couple of review samples thanks to Simon Bendall of Rail Express. Not the world's best pics as one of them hurries through New Bryford..... First impression is that it looks like a HIA. It's also quite weighty and a stable runner. The buffers look a bit thin and the sloping doors over the ends are painted white, whereas I think they are unpainted aluminium. See photo a few posts back Easily rectified. Having said that, much better value than a large silver hopper from another manufacturer. Cheers, Mick 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Oh wow!!! That looks absolutely stunning. I wonder what the rake limit will be with you stating that they are quite weighty... Thanks for posting those Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Had my mitts on a couple of review samples thanks to Simon Bendall of Rail Express. Not the world's best pics as one of them hurries through New Bryford..... HIA1.jpg HIA2.jpg First impression is that it looks like a HIA. It's also quite weighty and a stable runner. The buffers look a bit thin and the sloping doors over the ends are painted white, whereas I think they are unpainted aluminium. See photo a few posts back Easily rectified. Having said that, much better value than a large silver hopper from another manufacturer. Cheers, Mick Much better value than an up an coming orange one from another manufacturer as well if the photos are anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robf Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hattons have just increased the pre-order price to £21.17 due the the RRP increase by Dapol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 29, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 29, 2016 Hattons have just increased the pre-order price to £21.17 due the the RRP increase by Dapol. Still good value at that. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robf Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Still good value at that. Cheers, Mick They are good value and I'm looking forward to receiving them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Yep, aluminium, (or possibly a grey plastic/fibreglass?) doors looking at pics of newish ones I've got - as you say, easy to correct if you want an ex-works one, might not even need it if you're weathering it as the real ones discolour.Buffers (on the real thing) are a bit odd, sort of a "reversed" style, with the outer part bigger than the inner, not sure that effect has quite worked on the model though. Looking at the real things, the whole of the buffer is painted black* rather than being part black, part green as it is on the model, I wonder if it would less odd with a bit of detail work with a paintbrush?Either way - it looks like a useful model of what it's supposed to, and that's great value even comparing against other modern bogie wagons (even ignoring certain expensive limited editions!)....well done Dapol for managing to get a useful "trainload" wagon like that to market at such a good price. (*Inner bits seem to weather to a rusty colour after use.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted February 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2016 Also price has gone up from £18 each. Again at a well known retailer! Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 post #54 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Best price I've come across so far... https://www.collettsmodelshop.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&search=Dapol%20hia As said before, superb value and another well done (from me) to Dapol for producing this type of wagon at an outstanding price. Can't wait to get my mitts on these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Yep, aluminium, (or possibly a grey plastic/fibreglass?) doors looking at pics of newish ones I've got - as you say, easy to correct if you want an ex-works one, might not even need it if you're weathering it as the real ones discolour. Buffers (on the real thing) are a bit odd, sort of a "reversed" style, with the outer part bigger than the inner, not sure that effect has quite worked on the model though. Looking at the real things, the whole of the buffer is painted black* rather than being part black, part green as it is on the model, I wonder if it would less odd with a bit of detail work with a paintbrush? On the very similar IIAs from the same builder the end doors are corrugated metal, steel I think. It certainly dents, and makes a metallic echo when you hit it! The buffers seem to be a reasonably standard euro type. I can't remember if they're capsule or rubber-metal sprung inside though. The heads are a distinctive 'bread loaf' type shape and are quite stiffly sprung. Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 On the very similar IIAs from the same builder the end doors are corrugated metal, steel I think. It certainly dents, and makes a metallic echo when you hit it! The buffers seem to be a reasonably standard euro type. I can't remember if they're capsule or rubber-metal sprung inside though. The heads are a distinctive 'bread loaf' type shape and are quite stiffly sprung. Jo The end doors on these are also corrugated. And this photo also shows the bread loaf shaped buffers http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/freightlinerhia/e5c088a62 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Can't do it from here, but I'll post a pic tonight of a fairly new one's end, I think grey is more accurate than silver, which is why I wondered whether it was plastic rather than metallic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Edited February 29, 2016 by Glorious NSE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 29, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 29, 2016 Grey it is then.... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 You can use EWS tail lamps too as well as GBRF loco's... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I queried with Hattons the recent notification that pre order prices couldn't be maintained on the HIAs due to an rrp increase by Dapol, as this had not occurred previously with Dapol products. I wasn't concerned about the increase for this item, as it is still very good value, but I have several other Dapol pre-orders that this decision might affect. Hattons have advised that Dapol have recently introduced a similar policy to Bachmann, whereby a newly released product cannot be discounted by more than 15% of the rrp at release. As Dapol invariably increase the rrp of new products at the initial release, this will affect current pre orders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ews60002 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 How close are these to being sent out to the shops for release? Mat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 2, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2016 The HIA wagons on show at Telford were production models airfreighted in and they confirmed that the container was on the way. The Dapol bookface page states early March, so here's hoping soon. Giving me enough time to get them weathered for an outing at the end of April. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 8, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2016 Due 28th March according to a well known retailer. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCAR6015 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Due 28th March according to a well known retailer. Cheers, Mick If these items are half as good as they look and considering the likely selling prices, I don't expect to see them gathering dust on retailers shelves!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Disappointing these delays...but Im sure they are going to be worth the wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) I'm sure if they sell well there will be more versions to follow Edited March 9, 2016 by martin_l_jones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robf Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Dapol have just announced the HIAs are now being sent to retailers. Not too long to wait. http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=information/news&news_id=152#.Vuqva_mLShc HIAs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 That's really good news after reading the constant glum on the Bachmann threads... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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