RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5 There are a few piccies on web search for E1106 Some interior photos in the Mark 1 book by Keith Parkin as well, the big one. Well worth buying BTW. Not sure if this is allowed but I found these 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5 Robert Carrol and 51A both have pictures of E1106, the RC one is good enough to transform to get underframe detail, ask him if I could upload my transformed copy if you want it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 8 minutes ago, MJI said: Robert Carrol and 51A both have pictures of E1106, the RC one is good enough to transform to get underframe detail, ask him if I could upload my transformed copy if you want it Thanks Martin, yeah any pics greatly received. Many thanks for the colour interior pics. My Parkin is up at my Dads so will bob round and have a look to refresh myself. Cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 5 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 5 15 minutes ago, jessy1692 said: Thanks Martin, yeah any pics greatly received. Many thanks for the colour interior pics. My Parkin is up at my Dads so will bob round and have a look to refresh myself. Cheers James Please ask RC though if I can put my manipulated one on this thread, I did similar with E1883 and had the photographers permission 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Taylor Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 16 hours ago, jessy1692 said: Evening all, not done a great deal for a couple of weeks after the last posts, I got a lot of stuff varnished up and rebuilt and sent back up to the layout and got some other bits down to my house to mess about with. Currently on the go is a the Met Cam prototype FK, Southern Pride sides mounted on an old mainline mk1. Extra gutter strips added and new shell vents added following a delivery of bits this week, door hinges added this weekend and holes drilled in prep for door furniture. Need another coat of primer now. Also on the go is something a little bit special, this is what we think is the only Comet Diagram 32 Booth Car, the box is marked up as a demo build which i dont think ever went into production so this could be the only one. It has come to me via @Clive Mortimore and @Mallard60022 who got it from Geoff Brewin when he had Comet models. It's been with me since summer last year, it had been partially built and had got a little bent I'm guessing in the post etc, I think it's been in the box a while as there is a very perished elastic band in there. I de soldered the sides from the ends and popped it away pending acquiring some extra bits for it although it came with all main components and hand written notes I had an idea so go the extra mile and get an interior etc. Various bits have been sourced over the last few months, notable some self adhesive window frames from Southern Pride and an interior kit. I set to this weekend cleaning up the brass and the ends and slowly straightened things up and started the rebuild, once the shell was solid I added all the usual end detail etc and made sure the roof sits nicely. Not having made a Comet kit in full before iv built the shell round the underframe and ends. Door hinges are from Southern Pride and the underframe gear on do far is a mix of Comet and Southern Pride, the kit didn't come with the catering etched bits like the refrigeration unit so I'll probably scratch/bodge build somethings that look right, coming along nicely. The bogies came already wheeledvand built but with BR1 side frames so I've ordered some B5 sideframes from Dart Castings, it's already weighing a fair bit so adding them on I doubt itl need extra weight in. There doesn't seem to be too many pics out there of it but I have seen it got refurbished in around 1970 when an extra toilet window was put in on the corridor side, these etches look to be original format so was only in service 2 years as per my model. I think the Southern Pride etches portray the later side layout, if anyone has any pics of it I'd love to see them! Thanks to Phil and Clive for allowing me to give it a home, can't wait yo get the interior in with the prototypes green tables! Cheers James That's such a cool find, I love Comet coach kits. This thread is as inspirational and interesting as ever! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, MJI said: There are a few piccies on web search for E1106 Some interior photos in the Mark 1 book by Keith Parkin as well, the big one. Well worth buying BTW. Not sure if this is allowed but I found these Some interior shots of Booth Car 1106 (& Lounge Buffet 1883) in this Pathe Newsreel. Note that the height of the booth walls is greater than in MJI's photos. Another modification carried out c1971 due to adverse comments from the public. The table lamps went as well. www.britishpathe.com/asset/88824/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 5 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5 On 10/11/2023 at 17:21, xm607 said: James, I n the past I have had a go at some nearly built loco’s, here are two inspired by an article by Colin Marsden on the class 58’s that never were, first is the straight electric class 88 for the west coast, converted from a BHE N gauge kit, and an export version of the 58 that Railfreight considered to replace the 20’s on coal trains, built from Hornby 58 components. Something very Australian about that single cab 58. Cheers Darius 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xm607 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 19 hours ago, Darius43 said: Something very Australian about that single cab 58. Cheers Darius The single cab 58 was aimed at overseas markets, various gauges and power installed, but no takers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 (edited) Evening all, not a lot happening with the booth car this week, still looking at underframe stuff and awaiting bogie side frames but I may tackle the roof after tea tonight. This weekend I have been working on the Ferry CCT after the tie down loops arrived from Comet/Wizard so I could have a crack at getting it nearly done. Underframe gubbins done as per best guess from pics and steps added. Handrails added last night and roof vents also. A coat of primer was put this aft and I think it's about done. This one is heading over to Cumbria to a good a modelling mate of mine who has bashed the below for me from a Hornby LMS TPO Gresley dia 165 TPO: As you can see a fair bit of work has gone into it so I'm pretty chuffed it's landed on my bench, in a nutshell, roof filed flat, the body and chassis cut down and filler section added to make it correct length, then doors cut outs and new doors added as well as god knows how much strip for the panelling. Isinglass do a 3d printed kit for it but also sell the tranductor as a separate part so as set duly arrived this week, pleasantly surprised to find it's designed to be hinged so iv spent a big of time building it up and adding it to the model. Also a couple of other little bits added such as door hinges and step boards etc. A coat of primer this aft really shows the accuracy of the panelling and I cannot wait to get it painted, it will be blue and grey as E70299E as it still had most of the gear still attached. Just need to work out what to run with it now! More research required with the LMS TPO coaches that came over to Eastern required. The Met Cam mark 1 is has had a few coats of maroon too so is getting there too. More soon, hopefully a quieter week work wise than last week. Cheers James Edited February 11 by jessy1692 Spelling and pics 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Taylor Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Amazing - that Gresley TPO is very impressive, I've recently done similar beading (but not to the same level) and my heart goes out to any poor soul that tackles making it from styrene strip! Can't wait to see this and the ferry van painted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Are you aware that the ferry vans were built with windows - in fact, apart from the ferry fittings, they were identical to the prototype CCT. Their original livery was, again like the protype CCT, NPCCS crimson (blood) with straw yellow lettering. The vans were rejected by H.M. Customs and Excise as being too insecure, due to the windows; so these were plated-over. Evidence of the welded-in plating could be detected throughout their lives. CJI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 11 Author Share Posted February 11 11 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Are you aware that the ferry vans were built with windows - in fact, apart from the ferry fittings, they were identical to the prototype CCT. Their original livery was, again like the protype CCT, NPCCS crimson (blood) with straw yellow lettering. The vans were rejected by H.M. Customs and Excise as being too insecure, due to the windows; so these were plated-over. Evidence of the welded-in plating could be detected throughout their lives. CJI. Evening John, oh yes I know they had windows originally but then had them plated in, I prefer them in their later bauxite colours as well. The couple I have seen in preservation look to be in early freight brown? So was it crimson then brown? Or is the preservation brown spurious? Cheers James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: Are you aware that the ferry vans were built with windows - in fact, apart from the ferry fittings, they were identical to the prototype CCT. Their original livery was, again like the protype CCT, NPCCS crimson (blood) with straw yellow lettering. The vans were rejected by H.M. Customs and Excise as being too insecure, due to the windows; so these were plated-over. Evidence of the welded-in plating could be detected throughout their lives. CJI. That's lucky as on my N gauge conversion (done 40 years ago from the Lima) the outlines of the windows showed up slightly when I painted with car primer. At the time I was disappointed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 12 hours ago, jessy1692 said: Evening John, oh yes I know they had windows originally but then had them plated in, I prefer them in their later bauxite colours as well. The couple I have seen in preservation look to be in early freight brown? So was it crimson then brown? Or is the preservation brown spurious? Cheers James Yes, crimson then brown. CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 13 hours ago, cctransuk said: The vans were rejected by H.M. Customs and Excise as being too insecure, due to the windows; so these were plated-over. Evidence of the welded-in plating could be detected throughout their lives. Would the welded-in plates be slightly proud of the windows, or slightly inset? If the latter, I guess that would be easier to model (or even inadvertently get correct) Steve S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 3 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said: Would the welded-in plates be slightly proud of the windows, or slightly inset? If the latter, I guess that would be easier to model (or even inadvertently get correct) Steve S Flush - it was the weld line that wasn't effectively ground out - or it could have been corrosion along the weld line. CJI. Edited February 12 by cctransuk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 52 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Flush - it was the well line that wasn't effectively ground out - or it could have been corrosion along the weld line. CJI. Hi both, I think this pic shows quite well the corrosion around the window plating https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brferrymotorcarvan/h37e8853e Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, jessy1692 said: Hi both, I think this pic shows quite well the corrosion around the window plating https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brferrymotorcarvan/h37e8853e Cheers James Yes - you can even see where they tack-welded the plate in place, before the main welding. (Assuming that there was a peripheral weld line, and not just tacks plus filler)! CJI. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 (edited) Evening all, pitifully slow progress at the mo, just a lot going on with other things other than trains. However, I think I have finally got the Booth Car very close to primer today. I think I have got all the main bits of the underframe sorted now and the roof nearly done, the ribs are .4mm masking tape. 1st time ive tried it so interested to see how they look once primed. Window frames are self adhesive from Southern Pride, corridor side ones are bang on, the kitchen side ones the comet windows look to be slightly different to the SP stickers so iv adapted them a bit. The kitchen window I gave up with as the comet etches are a fair bit bigger than the SP stickers so let's see how it goes. The B5 sides are on the original comet bogies, frustratingly I drilled a bit too much on the backside to ease the bearing cups into thr sideframes but I think they'll be ok after painting. Other things moving along too, the Gresley TPO I have decided to just do it maroon after a couple of very useful Ebay buys this weekend to go with it. The Met Cam 1st is now maroon, justvawaiting a few details and lining. The Stanier CK is back and primed, a little more filler required before its going into blue and grey. Lots to do and hopefully a steadier week ahead work wise. Cheers Jame Edited February 25 by jessy1692 Spelling 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) Evening all, it seems things were plodding on rather slowly then suddenly this weekend have suddenly got to the close to transfers stage. So since the last update lots of coats of rail grey and blue have been applied over various stuff, maroon on the TPO as well. The Stanier coach is an SK not a CK as I remembered its been converted from a 57ft brake end.. one side is currently looking good awaiting transfers but the other had a bit of a paintwork failure when the masking tape brought off 2 primer coats and probably 4 coats of grey. Must have got knocked or a bit of grease stopped the initial coat from sticking. This then got sanded back to solid paint and more grey applied, hopefully masking up again tomorrow. The 2d TSO and BG bashes are looking good, the BG is blue and grey one side and plain blue the other so I can letter it up as parcels or something on the plain blue side. Should look interesting on the back of the 2d rake and a nice little van project after creating the TSO. The TPO is now in maroon with the last details to be painted bogies are Bachmann with step boards added these will be painted and weathered soon. The Met Cam FK has had an interior bodged together so now just awaiting lining and numbers and I'll add the silver window surrounds. A Tri Ang CK has had the blue and grey treatment as well as all the usual mk1 mods, bogies moved, new buffers and end plate and a new roof rescued from a newer Hornby CK with correct vent placement. Booth Car coming on a treat, I was nervous tonight taking the masking tape off but it's come out very well, couple of bits to tidy up but I'm very happy. I have an interior pack ready to make up for it so that's tomorrow's job. Finally the suburban lav comp is ready for transfers, I drilled out all the holes for the hinges and door stuff before painting... that was a bit tedious but well worth the effort. Lining and some lettering just ordered from Fox this evening too, vest psych myself up for lining this lot now! Thanks for looking James Edited March 10 by jessy1692 7 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 On 05/02/2024 at 14:20, MJI said: There are a few piccies on web search for E1106 Some interior photos in the Mark 1 book by Keith Parkin as well, the big one. Well worth buying BTW. Not sure if this is allowed but I found these Evening all and thanks again MJI for the int pics. I bought an interior seating pack from Southern Pride but it doesn't come with the full layout of the interior so these pics have been invaluable. The bar area has been fun to do this evening but the interior other than the bar at this end of the coach is pretty much guess work on my part. To be honest, once the roof is on you won't see much but I'd be interested to know what is correct in this area. The model is the pre refurb body without the extra toilet window on the corridor side. Lining is on order so this is getting pretty close to finishing off. Still to do are bogie step boards and final bits of paint work tidying. Cheers James 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 (edited) Evening all, I took the day off on Friday to make the most of a quiet house to tidy up and most importantly crack on with transfers for the various coaches filling the living room. I managed to go through a whole pack of Fox's white lining and thankfully had a bit left from previous to get everything lined out, glad the 2D BG is plain blue on 1 side! Saturday I managed a bit of time to weather things down a bit and tidy up any loose ends paint wise and likewise tonight so as these stand they are just awaiting the arrival of fresh rattle cans of Humbrol satin to land the once sprayed up I'll add all the shiny brass door handles etc- I know they were usually painted body colour on the real things but if I'm adding brass ones I'll keep them brass. Pics below of the current batch: Diagram 165 Gresley TPO, heavily bashed by an excellent modelling friend for me, started life as a Hornby Stanier TPO, extended, lots of scratch built detail made up and on Bachman bogies, tranductor gear from Isinglass and I'll add netting after varnishing. I have got a kit of the Diagram 342 POT to go with this so should be next up, hopefully the two will look something like this when done: To add to the ranks of spurious things, here is my take on a MK2D BG, made up from the brakecsections of two BSO's when we made a TSO, decided to do one side plain blue on it to slot into the parcels rake. Interesting little thing and should look good on the end of the mk2 rake Here is the other bits of the BSO's, I still think the Airfix 2d best captures look to my eyes and yes I know they are a bit long in the tooth now but at least you can pick them up cheaply! Suburban lav comp, bachman donor ciach with comet sides, lots of holes drilled for hinges which was a chore but very much worth it. Keen eyed may spot one of the bogies is kit master vintage due to the original backman bogies being a bit bust. Itl do for now! Stanier SK M13135 M allegedly one of only two SK's to get blue and grey, this is some ancient M&L models brass sides from ebay for 3.20 mounted on an Airfix brake 3rd bodie/ chassis. Roof ribs and vents are all new. I think this coach cost less than a tenner to get all the bits assembled, bargain against the cost of a new Bachmann one. Tri Ang CK, pretty much bog standard Tri Ang but with a more modern Hornby roof that has correct roof vents etc which helps the look no end. Usual things of bogie pivots moving back and higher, comet retracted buffers and corridor end plate Met Cam 1957 prototype FK- This started life as a Mainline BSK I think, I like to use mainline coaches for brass over lays as the bogies are in the right place and the body shells are nice and solid to work with. A new rainstrip soon discuises the thickness of the brass. Sides are Southern Pride, I was hoping yo get the matching SK too but it's out of stick and not likely to be produced again, interior also from SP. I particularly like the simple roof layout and the vinyl window frames really make the non standard layout come to life. Finally, last but not least E1106 Booth Car, what we believe to be a comet test build of the Booth Car that didnt go on sale so this could be unique. Also the model is of the pre refurbished coach so doesn't have the extra toilet window I believe the Southern Pride sides/kit does. I am very pleased with how its come out so far, iv even come to like the green and red interior decor! It should really stand out in a rake and is pretty heavy! Big thanks go to @Clive Mortimore & @Mallard60022 for the model ending up with me to build/paint and also to @ColinK for the extra transfers sent last week to help speed it up. That's all for now, hopefully I can get these varnished sooner rather than later to get on with other stuff. Cheers James Edited March 20 by jessy1692 12 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Taylor Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 The Airfix Mk2d's are great - as you say they can be picked up cheaply and, with a little detailing, look very presentable. Great work as always! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted March 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20 57 minutes ago, Rosie Taylor said: The Airfix Mk2d's are great - as you say they can be picked up cheaply and, with a little detailing, look very presentable. Great work as always! I have lots, over 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 On 20/03/2024 at 15:19, MJI said: I have lots, over 20. I think I'm heading that way, definitely over 10 now I'm sure 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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