RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted March 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2018 From what I have read in steam railway and heritage railway magazines ( can't remember which issues ) railway and locomotive enthusiasts will have to get used to locos like tornado hauling mk3 coaches at somepoint soon. This comes as the result of crash worthiness assessments being carried out on mk1 coaches currently used on mainline tour trains. The result of these assessments being that they can be used for now but when mk3 rakes become available for conversion for use as tour stock, the tour operators may have no choice but to use mk3 coaches as their safety case I think its called is much higher therefore making these coaches safer than mk1s in the event of a derailment given that most steam trains run at less than 80 mph anyway. And indeed the A1SLT have announced plans to assemble a rake of Mk.3s, which I gather will be fitted with opening toplights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 And indeed the A1SLT have announced plans to assemble a rake of Mk.3s, which I gather will be fitted with opening toplights. Though I feel the plan to fit Tornado with a pantograph is a step too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted March 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2018 From what I have read in steam railway and heritage railway magazines ( can't remember which issues ) railway and locomotive enthusiasts will have to get used to locos like tornado hauling mk3 coaches at somepoint soon. This comes as the result of crash worthiness assessments being carried out on mk1 coaches currently used on mainline tour trains. The result of these assessments being that they can be used for now but when mk3 rakes become available for conversion for use as tour stock, the tour operators may have no choice but to use mk3 coaches as their safety case I think its called is much higher therefore making these coaches safer than mk1s in the event of a derailment given that most steam trains run at less than 80 mph anyway. Surely if a safety case has been made that Mk1 stock is in anyway unsafe then they would be banned outright. I doubt Mk3 coach availability would have, I would hope, nothing to do with it. Griff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 The mk1s are either good enough or they're not. But there other way to look at it is that the MK3 is a stronger, safer design, and if they are available it's questionable if using a less safe design is compatible with the ALARP concept. I don't know the answer there... The A1SLT also want to run at 90, which might change the equation on whether a MK1 is satisfactory in a world where safer options are available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2018 Though I feel the plan to fit Tornado with a pantograph is a step too far. In a few years time when diesels are banned and we have the all electric railway you will be closer to the truth than you think! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 In a few years time when diesels are banned and we have the all electric railway you will be closer to the truth than you think! Mike. So when diesels are banned do you think they will allow a smoke bellowing kettle run around instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
73c Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Though I feel the plan to fit Tornado with a pantograph is a step too far. Would that make it Bi-Mode, suitable for the MML ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Though I feel the plan to fit Tornado with a pantograph is a step too far. Well we have had Sharknado - Coming Soon SPARKNADO Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted March 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2018 From what I have read in steam railway and heritage railway magazines ( can't remember which issues ) railway and locomotive enthusiasts will have to get used to locos like tornado hauling mk3 coaches at somepoint soon. This comes as the result of crash worthiness assessments being carried out on mk1 coaches currently used on mainline tour trains. The result of these assessments being that they can be used for now but when mk3 rakes become available for conversion for use as tour stock, the tour operators may have no choice but to use mk3 coaches as their safety case I think its called is much higher therefore making these coaches safer than mk1s in the event of a derailment given that most steam trains run at less than 80 mph anyway. Doesn't bother me. I like Mk3's. Best rolling stock built in Britain since the 1970's. Bring it on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Bringing this thread back to topic; The Great Central is running midweek services this week and next week. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday sees the Easter Bunny Express event with the Easter bunny giving sweets out on the trains. There are also characters from Alice in Wonderland to meet. The website is advertising 92214 and 70013 as the steam locomotives in service. Over the Easter weekend, Quorn yard becomes the focus for the annual Easter vintage festival. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Would that make it Bi-Mode, suitable for the MML ? Bi mode is what you call it when you order EMUs then realise that the wires are never going up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Bringing this thread back to topic; The Great Central is running midweek services this week and next week. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday sees the Easter Bunny Express event with the Easter bunny giving sweets out on the trains. There are also characters from Alice in Wonderland to meet. The website is advertising 92214 and 70013 as the steam locomotives in service. Over the Easter weekend, Quorn yard becomes the focus for the annual Easter vintage festival. Does anyone know if there's any bunny-free heritage railways this weekend?! I fancy a trip out, but can't face all the egg and bunny-related "fun"... ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Does anyone know if there's any bunny-free heritage railways this weekend?! I fancy a trip out, but can't face all the egg and bunny-related "fun"... !Northern Rail largely run 1980s themed services every day if that helps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Does anyone know if there's any bunny-free heritage railways this weekend?! I fancy a trip out, but can't face all the egg and bunny-related "fun"... ! I believe the bunny is absent from the GC over the weekend. The Easter vintage festival features traction engines, steam lorries, fairground organs etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted March 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2018 The GCRN welcomes its new guest steam loco for Easter , 'Douglas', an 0-6-0 Hunslet with tender, formerly a real J94. Look forward to seeing it on the climb to Barnstone Tunnel and hoping it resembles a J10 from some angles! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Does anyone know if there's any bunny-free heritage railways this weekend?! I fancy a trip out, but can't face all the egg and bunny-related "fun"... !See http://www.heritage-railways.com/events.php?bf=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted March 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2018 Does anyone know if there's any bunny-free heritage railways this weekend?! I fancy a trip out, but can't face all the egg and bunny-related "fun"... ! If you go to the Mid Hants Railway you can avoid the bunnies by hiding behind Thomas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Chance of anywhere being bunny / easter egg free will be pretty slim even if not advertised as such there is bound to be something easterish about - no doubt one layout at least at the York exhibition on the Sunday will have a coal wagon full of mini easter eggs. Edited March 29, 2018 by Butler Henderson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted March 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2018 Easter bunnies, chicks and eggs are good for business on today's visitor-engaging preservation enterprises! They pay for the other things we enjoy at steam events etc. The family market is worth more than the enthusiast market... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 There will be something Easter-ish about all the lines this weekend. The weather.... Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Nah, if they are to be truly prototypically Eastery they will be closed for engineering works and running busses! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 There are some miserable b&&&&&& on this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I don't understand all this rabbit and egg lark. Rabbits don't lay eggs. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefingers Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Didcot Railway Centre are running a normal steaming weekend, no mention of anything Easter related on their site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I don't understand all this rabbit and egg lark. Rabbits don't lay eggs. Geoff Endacott They lay chickens !! Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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