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Another of my 'seemed like a good idea at the time' projects last summer was to create kits for each of the principal carriages of the London & Birmingham Railway.

 

Once again this was to be another diversion from Bricklayers Arms but a change is as good as a break, no?

 

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Together with a good friend Tom Nicholls who has provided endless information, drawings, research and above all encouragement, I started at the bottom with the intention of working my way up. In other words, the first was the open third class carriage (if you can call it a carriage at all) and the open-sided second. These have been created as fairly straightforward cast kits with one resin-cast block for the seats. This turned out to be quite a good idea as making seats in styrene is very boring indeed.

 

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The sole bars, axle guards and springs are all part of the side so the carriage went together quite quickly. The buffers were turned in brass and set in a mould to produce a quantity of castings suitable for both types of carriage.

 

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I haven't bothered with any form of compensation with these as they really are so small it hardly seems worth the effort. In fact they are that small one would fit neatly inside your average 10ton coal wagon (yes, I tried it)!

 

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The open-sided second required a little more work in that I made little turned pillars to support the roof which was made of brass sheet gently curved to the correct profile. These carriages also had brakes, the brakesman sitting amongst the passengers and hopefully not being too distracted from his job by the odd glimpse of a ladies ankle. The handle is operated through a hole in the end panelling which presumably gave the brakesman a view forward or back as required, although a roof top seat like the braked First class carriages would have been much more useful in that respect.

 

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The enclosed Night Second is a work in progress and artwork is currently being drawn up by a fellow Brighton Circle member to produce the two types of First class as etched kits. More about these in a future blog when I finally stop fussing over the detail and agree to send the artwork to the etchers!

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Just now, Ian Simpson said:

Marvelleous work, Chris! Wondering if I can get away with them in 3.5 mm (edit: assuming you're going to sell them), as these coaches were so narrow.

Let's hope the new Rapido Lion release inspires modellers to explore the potential of early railways like the L&B.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Ian Simpson said:

 

Hi Ian, Thanks. I think they might be ok in 3.5mm, I'll have to measure one and give you some external dimensions... and then get round to writing some instructions!

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I could be very tempted  even though they don't fit with my current modelling plans.

Very nice work.

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For anyone looking for early carriages in H0 I can report that Chris's London and Brighton 3 compartment second/open third is (within a millimetre or so) the same size as the Bachmann 'Prussia' carriage. Presumably these new offerings are much the same size?  (thinks: must resist...)

 

George

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6 minutes ago, 45587 said:

For anyone looking for early carriages in H0 I can report that Chris's London and Brighton 3 compartment second/open third is (within a millimetre or so) the same size as the Bachmann 'Prussia' carriage. Presumably these new offerings are much the same size?  (thinks: must resist...)

 

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Hi George, yes they're very similar in size.

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Oh dear, I was afraid you'd say that. Meanwhile I just realised I've got pics of your L&B 3rd and a cut down Prussia carriage together:

 

 

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Some very nice modelmaking there. I do like the turned roof stanchions.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Ian Simpson said:

Marvelleous work, Chris! Wondering if I can get away with them in 3.5 mm (edit: assuming you're going to sell them), as these coaches were so narrow.

Let's hope the new Rapido Lion release inspires modellers to explore the potential of early railways like the L&B.

Ian, I tried buying you a 7mm coach from Parliamentary Trains for Christmas (just, because...) but it didn't work out unfortunately. If Chris can do them as kits I'll buy you a couple. And if you live long enough I might even build them for your birthday :-)

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Delightful.  Interesting footboards/steps!

 

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making seats in styrene is very boring indeed

 

Couldn't agree more. Ballasting is fun compared to that.

 

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You want “tedious and boring”?
 

Try slates.
 

try about 0.27 square metres of slates…
 

 

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I actually like doing slates. There's clear and steady progress on a very visible part of the structure.

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41 minutes ago, 5&9Models said:

Maybe RMWeb should run a survey of the most tedious jobs in the world of Railway Modelling! :read:

 

Working to earn the cash to buy what you want ! :jester:

(Happily retired) 

 

As an aside I am very much enjoying these blog entries and this period is really tempting.

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The parts that struck me were the cupboard doors along the side - presumably for under-seat luggage stowage?

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On 24/01/2022 at 12:45, MikeOxon said:

The parts that struck me were the cupboard doors along the side - presumably for under-seat luggage stowage?

Correct. Sometimes they had vents and doubled up as dog boxes but yes, these ones were for luggage in the absence of a roof to put it on.

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