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cheers,

Keith

I am sitting at the cusp of whether to pursue futher modelling along this theme or to allow other interests to take control for me personally, such as Southern Region 1950s/1960s or Scottish Region 1950s/1960s in an end to end form.

Can anyone help with photos, ideas etc of their layouts or projects to finally sway me personally in the direction of modelling a stabling point circa 1967-1969 for myself please?

Just like so many other modellers I am sitting on approximately thirty locomotives across several genre, with 1960s era diesels in both 4mm and N gauge, the latter for another now stalled project. Also I have onboard already some 4mm Southern Region steam, but with Hornby's 700, 2-Bil and 2-Hal and Bachman's E4 posing great temptations for the future I feel myself being pulled in this direction too.

Whilst I do like the attractions of watching the trains go by within a limited space, hence the N gauge stock, I cannot come to terms with the aspects of detail being so easily seen by my soon to be fifty seven year old eyesight anymore, so these will just have to find new homes. So 4mm has the batton for me for the future, but what about modelling a stabling point that is not set in the late 1970s, 1980s or 1990s as so many modellers seem to be doing, instead what about one set in 1967-1969, when I was still an impressionable ten year old lad!

Surely this must be well trodden path, can anyone help with inspiration an examples of what they have done please?

Thanks,

Kevin

Does anyone know when D5639 was repainted form GSYP to BFYE?

I have been looking to add the Heljan model of the above to my small collection on 65A allocated transition era diesels.  It is available in GSYP, and I have photos of her in that livery dating from around 1964.  The next set of images I can find all date from 1972into the TOPS era and show her in BFYE in the same style as class 24/5 etc, i.e. no rap-around yellow on the cabs.  With a view to buying only locos that could have ran together in reality (1970/71) it would be most helpful to know when she was repainted.  I have searched the usual places such as Flickr and DerbySulzers but to no avail.

Any help narrowing down the date would be most welcome.

Thanks and regards for any help.

Alex.

Ian

Is this a generalisation or fact? I'm wondering if any green diesels ran without ladders. 

Many thanks!

D173,D179, D184, D186, D189, D191. Guys, can you give me any others than had the red embellishment?

In reality how common was this combination? I guess if it did occur it would have been mid 1950s?

Cheers

Dave

Then, whilst I set out on this odd pilgrimage of research, it occurred to me that there were several classes to which this obsessive logic could be applied.

Basically, every complete class that was withdrawn pre-TOPS - with the notable exception of Class 52 and 53 (all BFYE) and 14 (all GwSYP) - would have reached the breaker's yard in a variety of liveries. My quest is to determine what point in transition had each class reached?

Feel free to correct me, but of the principal types, excluding shunters, Big Four and prototypes, we're talking about:

• Class 15 GSYP, GFYE
• Class 16 GSYP, GFYE - see post 26 below
• Class 17 GSYP, GFYE, BFYE
• Class 21 GSYP, BFYE (D6109), some GNYP possibly?
• Class 22 GSYP, GFYE, BSYP, BFYE
• Class 23 GSYP, GFYE, BFYE - see post 5 below
• Class 28 GSYP, GFYE, BFYE - see post 27 below
• Class 29 TTGFYE, BFYE
• Class 35 GSYP, GFYE, BSYP, BFYE
• Class 41 (ok, D600s) GSYP, GFYE?, BFYE see post 3 below
• Class 42 MSYP, MFYE, BFYE
• Class 43 MSYP, MFYE, BFYE

I expect the Curtis et al definitive works include the Hymeks and Warships, so if that's the case just reference the book(s) concerned. As for the others, and accepting I won't have the options correct, and we need to allow for oddities like Double-Arrow on Green (aGFYE etc), I'll start to compile a list of each on here that can be updated.

Nothing surprising there, but this is a subject reasonably close to my modelling interests and I felt I should've been better prepared.

What were the first Class 27s into standard blue, and when?  I flicked through my 1968 Combine expecting to see the usual caption suffixed "(in blue livery)" for one, but no.  

I've a vested interest in that a handful worked over the Waverley in its final season, but for the wider readership of this forum, can we pinpoint the earliest, and was there then a long gap before widespread application by Eastfield, main works; or is it indeed true that none left the LMR in blue?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6262972159/in/set-72157627936919488

Long time sub-forum lurker, first time poster. 

There's a very interesting clip on Youtube  that appears to show 1630 in GFYE but retaining the lower green band on the front end. Link is here, 1630 appears at around 2:50. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRZ09mgjJOU&t=1s

I suspect it's wear on the yellow painted over the lower band, rather than being purposely painted that way, but a new one to me at least. Does anyone have any photos of 1630 that show if it was on both ends or which end had this feature? The video cuts out at just the wrong moment. 

Cheers,

Steve

The last few were 39, 42, 84,98,119, 131 and 136 BTW. I have ascertained the repaint dates for 84,98 and 131 which were as I thought all in Nov/Dec 69 but 119 it appears retained green until 13 February 1970 just prior to outshopping. Unless any of the others outlasted it that makes it the last green 45, albeit inside the works which means I dont know which of the above was the last to run in traffic.

42 I have no record of as blue till 21 March 1970 but it may have been released before xmas 1969 of course which is likely as it was in primer in November. It should be added that all the 44s bar D4 and several 46s were still green in Jan 1970.

Hope this is of interest.

Following my thread on D5021, I'm looking for info on another class 24 to carry BSYP livery, specifically D5026, and whether it had double arrows on all four cab sides and where the numbers were positioned. Also the style of yellow panel and whether the valances were cut away or present in this livery.

I can't find an image of it but I did see a bit about a 'Rail Exclusive' from railexclusive.com showing the image below:

I'm wondering if this is the beast?

I've found a picture by Mercig Studios of one of their N Gauge resprays of D5099 and was wondering if the number style was the same:

Thanks in advance,

BD

Thanks

Mike

It seems that class 31s where a bit slow in receiving the "Corporate Blue" livery with central double arrow logo than other classes. Having done a bit of research into 31 liveries I cannot find a blue one with a central positioned double arrow logo until late 1971 at the earliest. Up until then it appears they where still appearing with 2 arrows on the cabsides.

My question is does anyone know the numbers of the first ones to appear with central double arrow logos and dates they came out of works. Logic dictates that for completeness which where the last ones to appear with the 2 arrows on the cabsides.

looking forward to a full reply list.

Paul J.

Any Thoughts.

Norman Blackburn

A thread to ask- which were the very, very first locos that appeared in blue, in 1966 and the first quarter of 1967? Leaving aside D1733- is it known which locomotive was the first to appear in BR blue- and when? My guess would be last quarter of '66, but could it have been any earlier?

Wasnt really sure where to put this, other than somewhere it'd be appreciated - and thanks to Mike Hollick for the original heads up. Hotlinking doesnt seem to work, the images have to be accessed via the dropdown.

One that particularly intrigues me is 'D61xx', which shows a trio of 21s lined up at Ferryhill - they're not the pukka GNoS ones as they have no tablet recesses, so must be Eastfield machines. I wonder if they're perhaps en route to Inverurie for breaking?