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Hello,

I have a photograph of the above wagon taken at Dorchester South in 1952 along with 30ton bogie bolster C.B940273.

Both were unloading untreated timber boles - possibly for cooperage at the nearby Eldridge Pope brewery.

Can anyone help with the history of these two vehicle please?

Many thanks,

Nick.,

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Hello,

I have a photograph of the above wagon taken at Dorchester South in 1952 along with 30ton bogie bolster C.B940273.

Both were unloading untreated timber boles - possibly for cooperage at the nearby Eldridge Pope brewery.

Can anyone help with the history of these two vehicle please?

Many thanks,

Nick.,

 

Hi Nick,

 

I don't have any information on the Quint C but B940273 was (as you say) a Bogie Bolster C built by Metro-Cammell under lot 2308 to diagram 1/471 in 1951.   It was part of a large batch of 950 wagons.   Timber boles are an interesting load for a bogie bolster at this relatively late date and would make a nice model... 

 

Bill

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Nick

Your photo, or one taken on the same occasion, appears in LNER wagons, volume 2, page 109. The caption reads:

"Having been built at York in 1923, No. E129067 was photographed in BR livery at Dorchester South in September 1952, by then updated to 42 tons and coded as Bogie Bolster C"

It is to Diagram D15, and part of a batch of 120 built at York from 1921-1923, originally rated at 40 tons. This batch was allocated NER numbers Z1-120, but, given the date of construction, it is likely that the last never received those numbers. Sixty examples had been built earlier, some at Gateshead in 1912-1914 to a slightly different design. Some of these were later converted to trestle wagons E16 dia.

 

Nick

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Hi Nick,

Many thanks for your reply and taking the time to dig out the info.

I don't have the LNER wagon book you mention so the detail is very useful.  Was there any info on how long these vehicles lasted in use ? 

Cheers,

Nick.

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Pardon my ignorance - but what is the purpose of the large wheel positioned on the framing seen in pic R1863?  Brakes?

Thanks,

Nick.

 

Nick: yes, it's the handbrake wheel.   The small cast plate behind the wheel probably specifies which way is "on" and which way is "off" when the wheel is turned.  Handbrake wheels were not very common on older British stock and the lever brake on the Bogie Bolster C is far more typical.    Neither vehicle has continuous (vacuum) brake, as indicated by their liveries: the Quint is painted in grey with black patches for lettering indicating an unfitted wagon and the C-bolster should have the same paint scheme, although it looks very dark in the photo. 

 

Bill

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Many thanks Bill for the continued info.  This is really much appreciated.

This group of pictures I am hoping will appear in a future issue of British Railways Illustrated with added text. Would you mind if I credited you with the info on E129067?

Cheers,

Nick.

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Nick: yes, it's the handbrake wheel.   The small cast plate behind the wheel probably specifies which way is "on" and which way is "off" when the wheel is turned.

 

Close inspection reveals that there were originally two curved plates - ON and OFF probably.

 

The left-hand plate has been broken, leaving only the upper end fixing point.

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

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Many thanks Bill for the continued info.  This is really much appreciated.

This group of pictures I am hoping will appear in a future issue of British Railways Illustrated with added text. Would you mind if I credited you with the info on E129067?

Cheers,

Nick.

 

Hi Nick I don't mind at all ;) but it was the other Nick who supplied most of the information on the Quint.

 

Cheers,

Bill

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Yes, and thanks to Nick as well.

Both mentioned in depatches!

Cheers,

Nick

Nick

 

I don't think I really deserve any mention.  My contribution was buying the book and then finding the info - Peter Tatlow is the one who did the research and deserves all the accolades! 

 

Nick

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