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I know they did run backwards but all the photos I have are light loco workings and one on freight with the cut down tender.

Does anyone know of a Bulleid Pacific picture on a short 2-3 coach train running tender first? I'm just wondering if I can justify my BofB running on Lulworth with 2 coaches.

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I know they did run backwards but all the photos I have are light loco workings and one on freight with the cut down tender.

Does anyone know of a Bulleid Pacific picture on a short 2-3 coach train running tender first? I'm just wondering if I can justify my BofB running on Lulworth with 2 coaches.

34033 Chard, running tender first with single Bulleid BCK, leaving Padstow 17.5.1962, in a Sid Nash photo. In Branch Line to Padstow - Middleton Press.
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It was probably a lot more common than published photographic evidence suggests.

In steam days I would imagine that a lineside photographer would often turn down a shot of a loco running tender first.

When compiling a book a tender first shot might only get used if the composition was interesting, or the working very unusual.

 

The Seaton branch saw excursions worked by tender locos, in the Middleton Press ' Branchlines to Seaton and Sidmouth', there is a photo of U 31805 hauling an 8 coach train tender first towards Seaton. 16/6/60

Another photo shows a U 31805 and 34096 Trevone in the yard at Seaton although not of the train that either of them hauled in. 6/6/60

 

'The Last Days of Steam in Devon' by Maurice Dart has a photo of 34030 Watersmeet at Instow tender first with empty stock to Torrington for a portion of a Waterloo train. 6/60

It looks like three coaches

 

'LSWR Country LInes then and now' by Mac Hawkins has a nice photo of the River Tavy viaduct with 34069 Hawkinge tender first with the 18.48 Tavistock North - Plymouth 9/5/61  

only the front of the first coach is visible though.

 

There were also out and back freight workings like Exmouth Junction to Whimple, or Exmouth Junction to Yeoford where one leg must have been worked tender first

though I can't find a photo of them,

 

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'Dorset Steam' by Michael Welch has a couple of better photos which are more on brief.

 

Page 62 shows 34045 Ottery St Mary with 2 coaches and a southern 4 wheel van working the 2.00pm Brockenhurst - Bournemouth at Wimborne, 12/10/63

 

Page 52 shows 34078 222 Squadron hauling a milk tank and 3 coach Bullied set 783 betwen Yeovil Town and Yeovil Junction, 2/6/63

 

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There'll be a few photos from the weekend and up coming weekends of City Of Wells running tender first with about 4 coaches as she's at the East Lancs for the season with not turning facilities :)

 

Just add photoshop to make the photo black and white and you're sorted :P

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It was probably a lot more common than published photographic evidence suggests.

In steam days I would imagine that a lineside photographer would often turn down a shot of a loco running tender first.

When compiling a book a tender first shot might only get used if the composition was interesting, or the working very unusual.

 

The Seaton branch saw excursions worked by tender locos, in the Middleton Press ' Branchlines to Seaton and Sidmouth', there is a photo of U 31805 hauling an 8 coach train tender first towards Seaton. 16/6/60

Another photo shows a U 31805 and 34096 Trevone in the yard at Seaton although not of the train that either of them hauled in. 6/6/60

 

'The Last Days of Steam in Devon' by Maurice Dart has a photo of 34030 Watersmeet at Instow tender first with empty stock to Torrington for a portion of a Waterloo train. 6/60

It looks like three coaches

 

 

 

'LSWR Country LInes then and now' by Mac Hawkins has a nice photo of the River Tavy viaduct with 34069 Hawkinge tender first with the 18.48 Tavistock North - Plymouth 9/5/61  

only the front of the first coach is visible though.

 

There were also out and back freight workings like Exmouth Junction to Whimple, or Exmouth Junction to Yeoford where one leg must have been worked tender first

though I can't find a photo of them,

 

 

 

WCs and BBs frequently were tender first on the Friary/Tavistock workings. Sadly we never took pictures then.

 

Brian.

 

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Always interested as I may have the book to have a look ;)

So yes please :)

Plate 30, Southern Railway Reflections...The West Country. Terry Gough.     Silver Link Publications.

ISBN 1-85794-135-7

 

This has some great pics for anywhere between salisbury and Cornwall with most being in the Devon and Cornwall areas and a good selection from around Exeter.

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I have a pic of a Packet, leaving Axminster for Exeter with the morning 'commuter' service. It is hauling an Exmouth Branch, 5 set and running tender first!

Can give you the book link if of interest.

That is interesting.

 

Although it is obviously indesirable to run tender first in places it is unavoidable.

My dad, who for a time worked in Exeter Central Control Office, used to tell me that there was a mileage limit on tender first running.

Whether that was a BR wide instruction or something local to the Western District of the SR I don't know.

He did say that Exeter to Axminster (about 27 miles). was just within the permitted limit,

 

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34033 Chard, running tender first with single Bulleid BCK, leaving Padstow 17.5.1962, in a Sid Nash photo. In Branch Line to Padstow - Middleton Press.

That's exactly the shot I had in mind Ian when I read the OP.

 

It's often used as evidence that there were too many WCs and they were wastefully used.

 

It's actually the complete opposite, the loco needed to get back to Wadebridge shed for the start of the morning sequence and it was used, I believe, to tow an untimetabled evening service between Padstow and Wadebridge. Strange things happened that far from Waterloo!

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