Simon Moore Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Currently I have a half finished class 25 which I had intended to do as the preserved 957 on the worth valley. I've now scrapped this idea in favour of a br loco which is where my questions lie. From what I can gather not many survived long in br ownership with most gone by the mid fifties. I would like to model one of the locos based at Wakefield & wondered if anyone could help me identify a loco that would have had Br numbers but still Lms lettering on the tender. I think it will make a unique looking model for use on our halifax based layout. I had hoped Sowerby Bridge would have has a few but it seems Wakefield & Goole was the only sheds in Yorkshire to have this class. I had been using the BR database website to find the numbers but it seems the website is broken as I cannot now access it. Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted October 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2015 Currently I have a half finished class 25 which I had intended to do as the preserved 957 on the worth valley. I've now scrapped this idea in favour of a br loco which is where my questions lie. From what I can gather not many survived long in br ownership with most gone by the mid fifties. I would like to model one of the locos based at Wakefield & wondered if anyone could help me identify a loco that would have had Br numbers but still Lms lettering on the tender. I think it will make a unique looking model for use on our halifax based layout. I had hoped Sowerby Bridge would have has a few but it seems Wakefield & Goole was the only sheds in Yorkshire to have this class. I had been using the BR database website to find the numbers but it seems the website is broken as I cannot now access it. Cheers Simon Try this website. britishsteam.com It took me a while to figure out how to find the Class 25 (coz their listed as lyr.class.928 and there are other 0-6-0's) - Author has used the Midland system of designating lowest class number as 'leader'? Go to LMS Stock List & type in lyr.class in the 'type' section. Then type 0-6-0 in the 'wheels' section, then press enter. This will give you 786 locos, including 2 types of 0-6-0T. I don't know how to NOT include the Saddle Tanks in this search. Roy's site is a little confusing. For specifically the Class 25 details, substitute lyr.class.928 I hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The L&YR used the number of the first engine to designate the class which followed. George Hughes introduced the numerical system from December 1919. The later Class 25 was previously the 528 Class, a slightly modified Kitson design originally for the Taff Vale Railway and ordered by Barton Wrtight, the first member being built in August 1876 by Kitson's; 928 was the lead engine from Vulcan and built August 1887. They were also built by Sharp Stewart, L&YR (Miles Platting works) and Beyer Peacock, and were also known as 'Ironclads'. L&YR numbering was complicated as some new engines were ordered under 'Capital' stock, i.e. new engines in their own right and would be numbered consecutively; or 'Revenue' stock, which were replacements for previous engines and would be numbered as their replacements. Such random numbers could turn up in the middle of an otherwise orderly list of fellow class members, and were not consecutive even within the Revenue stock numbers. All information from Barry C Lane (2010) Lancashire & Yorkshire Locomotives, Pendragon ISBN 978 1 8998 16 17 0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Moore Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Thank you for the detailed comments chaps. I've actually gone for 52047 with br numbers & lms on the tender. Probably a gamble but hopefully it'll be right. The dates for withdrawal are early 50s so I'm guessing it wouldn't have worn a br crest. It might not be perfect but im using my modellers licence to have something a bit different. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Simon, Most of them had the BR number on the cabside but nothing at all on the tender. However: http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p394689183/h2f1e13b8#h2f1e13b8 gives you what you want. HOWEVER be very careful about the tender type as many LYR locos had second hand tenders that were simply bristling with rivets! Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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