70E Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 I have one of the above sets on pre-order. I assume the mk3 coaches announced but to be released are the correct matching coaches for this set as well and I should pre-order as well? Is the TRFB W40001 correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted April 20, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2016 Looking at the Blue/Grey Mk3 coaches due for release this year, they are the correct coaches to make up the first rake of HST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 W40001 is correct for 253001. It is actually a TRSB (Trailer Restaurant Second Buffet) although Hornby are using their ex-Lima tooling RFM which has a slightly incorrect window arrangement on one side, and incorrect roof vents, for those who are bothered by such things. The branding "Buffet" shown on the Hornby website is correct for 1976, as is "Inter-City" on the saloon trailers rather than "Inter-City 125". Hornby are correctly not offering the TGS to match this rake, as they were not introduced until around 1980. They are not offering the other catering vehicle from 253001, (W40501, a TRUK), which has slightly more differences in window layout Compared to the RFM. Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
70E Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Much appreciated for the helpful replies. Slight change of plan managed to get a R3138 2nd hand which is OK for my needs (so cancelled the pre-order 40th edition), I still have the coaches on pre-order so apart from renumbering the coaches Im assuming they will still be suitable for R3138 or will I need to add INTERCITY 125 etc as well? Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The main difference with the R3138 power cars is that they are modelled with a couple of modifications which were added after a couple of years service. There is an exhaust deflector plate on both R3138 power cars (the raised roof section behind the cab, with daylight visible underneath), and a rain strip underneath the cab windscreen. You'd need to check photos, but I think these mods were introduced in 1979 - certainly photos of the ECML "class 254" fleet from introduction in 1978 don't have these changes.The branding of the Mark 3 coaches changed from Inter-City, Buffet and Restaurant to Inter-City 125, Buffet-Bar 125 (TRSB), Restaurant-Buffet 125 (TRUB) and Restaurant 125 (TRUK) in 1979 so there was probably a cross-over period when some of the coaches had the original branding but the power cars had the in-service mods. I'm sure there are photos out there showing this combination if you go looking. Edit - found one on Flickr here: https://flic.kr/p/vBTgK4 At the end of the day I don't think many people will notice - so go ahead and buy the anniversary coaches to go with the R3138 if you want to!CheersTom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2016 W43002 has been repainted into the original 1970s Blue/Yellow livery today and named "Sir Kenneth Grange", complete with set number 253001 on the front. A livery last seen in 1987. it was on display at St Phillips Marsh HST Depot today alongside prototype 41001. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2016 Great picture of an historical anniversary. Hope they see at least 50 years in service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As 'boring' as BR Blue would appear to many to have been, a clean ex-works Blue/Grey rake of coaches was as smart a livery as any, & the original Blue/Yellow livery of the Power Cars has never been bettered, either. Can't believe these things are 40. Makes me feel really old!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 Begs the question now as to whether the Hornby HST due this year is in fact this Named BR Blue example or the original one. They may not have been allowed to reveal it was to be named when first announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 If W43002 was to be "original", shouldn't the Inter-City branding be black inside the white outline? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I love these, I used to watch them in Sydney Gardens all the time, with the original power plants the noise in the cutting was wonderful. Are they planning a release with sound? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 They are doing a Virgin East Coast set with TTS Sound in both power cars this year. Should be easy to swap the bodies of you prefer the Original livery though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellotojasonisaacs Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 The East Coast set will be released with sounds for the MTU engine. If you want to run W43002/43003 in 1976 condition it would need the sounds from the old Paxman Valenta engines, unless you want to run it in 2016 condition then the MTU sounds will be correct (despite the fact the lighting clusters and former guards compartment would be incorrect for the 2016 condition). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellotojasonisaacs Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 As an aside, it would be nice if a TOC would repaint/vinyl an power car into the intercity swallow livery- a personal favourite of the BR era! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2016 On 03/05/2016 at 09:42, brushman47544 said: If W43002 was to be "original", shouldn't the Inter-City branding be black inside the white outline? Yes but No.. I don't think it ever left the works in Black/Yellow livery, but I understand the black lining inside the white highlight persisted for a while in service (unlike the majority of the class). it was repainted with blue inside the white outline at some point. But being pedantic.. it didn't have an orange safety stripe either in 1976. Here's the hst line up... (Taken using panoramic mode on an iPhone, click the picture to enlarge, scroll left to right) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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