Four plank coal wagon with rounded ends

[MarkSG]

Does anyone know if there's a suitable kit or RTR model (in 00) which, with a custom livery applied, would be a close enough match for this?

 

I don't need an absolutely precise replica - just something that looks approximately right will do. The most important thing is that it needs to be a four plank wagon with rounded ends that are close enough to this shape.

 

[petethemole]

Cambrian kits do two four plank wagons with raised ends http://cambrianmodels.co.uk/powagons.html. They are both Wheeler & Gregory wagons rather than GRCW but look very similar. One (C53) has that type of full height door but low curved ends. The other (C74) has the ends you want but a three plank door.  

[sharris]

For RTR, you could always get a 5 plank wagon, cut the top plank off and file the ends to shape. Most that I've seen seem to have diagonal straps on sides, although Hornby do appear to have some 6-plank PO wagons without diagonals - you'd need to do some re-working on the doors though if you cut them down.

 

Slaters (when they still existed) used to do a 5 plank Gloucester wagon kit which you could maybe modify - there may be a few still floating around exhibitions - although this had an end door, which your example doesn't have so you'd have to rework that.

 

Pete's suggestion may be simpler!

[MarkSG]

Ta. It looks like Cambrian's Wheeler & Gregory wagons are going to be the closest.

 

As I said, it doesn't need to be a precise replica of this particular wagon. H Burlingham & Co owned over 60 wagons, and I'd be very surprised if they were all identical! They probably had flat-ended ones as well, in which case there are probably plenty that would be suitable. But, given that this photo exists, it might be nice to get something approximating to it. I only need something that the livery will look plausible on.

[jwealleans]

This is C74:

 

 

and the right one of these, I think, is their other 4 plank round ended wagon.

 

 

The curve on your looks higher, but it wouldn't be too hard to make your own ends.

[wagonman]

Bear in mind too that the Burlingham wagon is 16ft long over headstocks whereas the Slater's Gloucester kits were all for 15ft long designs.

[Nearholmer]

Is it actually a coal wagon?

 

I ask, because coal wagons usually have the top plank or two continuous, to prevent the side bowing out under load.

 

It wasn't meant for carrying something else, was it?

 

Kevin

 

EDIT: Now I've spotted that little chalk-board, I'm really embarrassed!

 

EDIT2: But, maybe I shouldn't be. H Burlingham seem to have been agricultural engineers, and more besides, as well as fuel suppliers, so maybe it's the chalk-board that's wrong.

[MarkSG]

It's possible that the chalk board is wrong. But coal was Henry Burlingham's main use of the railways, his company had depots in several Cotswold towns. So it's reasonable to assume that it was for coal. Other photos of wagons constructed by GCR&W in the same era also have full-height doors, so maybe that was one of their particular design quirks.