LNERGE Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I bought a Hornby Railroad Tornado secondhand last week. I asked if the model was DCC ready and the shop assistant said yes. Knowing i had a spare decoder at home all i had to do was get it apart. A quick trawl of the net soon pointed me in the right direction. Next to find the spare decoder. That was more of a challenge but eventually it was located. I settd down to fit the chip and upon entry into the model if found this.. The model was beyond DCC ready. My questions are who made this chip, what are the two spare solder tabs for and where would i find instructions if the manufacturer can be identified? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF96 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Download the demo version of Hornby Railmaster, stick your loco complete with unsub decoder on the programming track and ask it to read all CVs. If its in Hornby's RM database it will bring up the manufacturer code and name and ID the decoder for you. Else use JMRI Decoder-Pro to do the same thing. Edited May 18, 2016 by RAFHAAA96 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Or, does your DCC system read CV values? If so CV8 will give you a number which is the manufacturer's ID. CV7 may have information on version. The full manufacturer ID list is in the DCC section of the NMRA's site. The three I know are 99 = Lenz, 145 = Zimo, 151 = ESU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I use a Hornby Elite. Every attempt to read the chip has resulted in the display showing XXXX. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I use a Hornby Elite. Every attempt to read the chip has resulted in the display showing XXXX. At least that's a start. It's from a Swedish manufacturer then? . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) .....The full manufacturer ID list is in the DCC section of the NMRA's site....... The latest NMRA list, dated January 2016, is here.... Manufacturer ID codes as assigned by the NMRA . Edited May 18, 2016 by Ron Ron Ron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGomez Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Looks like a Bachmann 36-553 to me. I´m not sure if that was the re-badged Lenz basic from about 10 years ago? Others will know for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Looks like a Bachmann 36-553 to me. I´m not sure if that was the re-badged Lenz basic from about 10 years ago? Others will know for sure. Earlier Bachmann branded decoders were re-badged older generation Lenz models, but the discontinued 36-553 & 554 were re-badged versions of the ESU LokPilot Basic V1.0; which was also discontinued about 2 years ago. That decoder did employ older motor drive technology, unlike its replacement, the Lokpilot Standard, which is very much up-to-date. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mezzoman253 Posted May 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2016 As far as I can tell no-one has answered the solder pads question. My offering would be for a Stay Alive capacitor, possilby. HTH Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 It looks like an ESU sourced decoder (clear heatshrink and blue PCB), probably a Bachmann 36-553. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 As far as I can tell no-one has answered the solder pads question. My offering would be for a Stay Alive capacitor, possilby. HTH Rob Stay alive is what i'm hoping for. Stay-Alive is very much from the recent past, this decoder looks older and therefore I'd suggest extra function outputs But we know more once the OP has the opportunity to either read CV7+8, or asked the retailer for more info The retailer didn't know it was in there i'm sure. It was sold as DCC ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I bought a Hornby Railroad Tornado secondhand last week. I asked if the model was DCC ready and the shop assistant said yes. Knowing i had a spare decoder at home all i had to do was get it apart. A quick trawl of the net soon pointed me in the right direction. Next to find the spare decoder. That was more of a challenge but eventually it was located. I settd down to fit the chip and upon entry into the model if found this.. DSC00880.JPG The model was beyond DCC ready. My questions are who made this chip, what are the two spare solder tabs for and where would i find instructions if the manufacturer can be identified? Originally an early 8 pin ESU Lokpilot - re-badged/fitted by Bachmann as a 36-553 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The Bachmann user manual is here. The ESU version of the manual can be found via this page...... here. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 I bough an 08 with sound today but it doesn't work. It's fairly obvious what's up. Two wires have come off the chip. Can anyone identify what chip it is and direct me to a drawing showing what goes where.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbeam.20 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I have had Loksound V3.5 that look like this. If the speaker is 100 ohm that makes it definite as that is the only brand to do so. I have found google image search useful in the past for resoldering wires to chips once they are identified, more so than the generic wiring diagram. Matthew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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