The beast: A L & Y 0-8-0 in 2mm finescale

[Nig H]

In this topic I'll describe building a L & Y large boilered 0-8-0 from an etch I recently produced. If you've seen a pic of the prototype you'll understand why I've named this topic 'The beast..' A friend maintains these are really ugly locos and I keep saying to him they aren't. Well, they're not beautiful like a Super D, but they are imposing looking locos.

 

Here's  a pic of the test etch.

 

 

I've a few pics of progress to date which I'll try to post soon.

 

Nig H

[Jim Martin]

Interesting. I think the bigger L&Y locomotives are very impressive apart from the weirdly undernourished tenders.

 

Jim

[nick_bastable]

In this topic I'll describe building a L & Y large boilered 0-8-0 from an etch I recently produced. If you've seen a pic of the prototype you'll understand why I've named this topic 'The beast..' A friend maintains these are really ugly locos and I keep saying to him they aren't. Well, they're not beautiful like a Super D, but they are imposing looking locos.

 

Here's  a pic of the test etch.

 

L & Y 0-8-0 construction shots.JPG

 

I've a few pics of progress to date which I'll try to post soon.

 

Nig H

thats one hell of an etch

 

best of luck with the build

[scanman]

In this topic I'll describe building a L & Y large boilered 0-8-0 from an etch I recently produced. If you've seen a pic of the prototype you'll understand why I've named this topic 'The beast..' A friend maintains these are really ugly locos and I keep saying to him they aren't. Well, they're not beautiful like a Super D, but they are imposing looking locos.

 

Here's  a pic of the test etch.

 

 

I've a few pics of progress to date which I'll try to post soon.

 

Nig H

Nice-looking etch Nigel.  I'll follow the build with interest  -but not my  line ~(unless they interacted with the GWR??

 

Regards

 

Ian

[queensquare]

Looking forward to progress on this one Nigel. Never came anywhere near Bath but I'm a sucker for pre-group eight coupled locos!

 

Jerry

[2mmMark]

They are a touch on the brutal side and that massive boiler probably daunted more than a few firemen. It's a loco that's functional and I quite like that.

[Nig H]

Hello,

 

Ian, I don't know whether they went anywhere near the GWR, I suspect not. Jerry, I too have a soft spot for pre-grouping 0-8-0s, especially Super Ds.

 

Here's another pic showing progress to date. Nothing was secured in place on the loco when this was taken, just resting on the footplate. I'm having problems with my camera so I may not be able to take more pics for a while.

 

 

Nig H

[Earlswood Nob]

G'day all

 

I like the Hughes 7F 0-8-0. It really is brutish.

 

I prefer it with the narrow cut-out cab sides, rather than the later version with a side window cab,

 

I am currently building a 00 gauge model (NuCast), and aim to fill the boiler with lead, which will give a good haulage power.

The chassis is fitted with a Mashima 1624 driving through a High Level 60:1 gearbox.

 

Earlswood nob

[Nig H]

G'day all

 

I like the Hughes 7F 0-8-0. It really is brutish.

 

I prefer it with the narrow cut-out cab sides, rather than the later version with a side window cab,

 

I am currently building a 00 gauge model (NuCast), and aim to fill the boiler with lead, which will give a good haulage power.

The chassis is fitted with a Mashima 1624 driving through a High Level 60:1 gearbox.

 

Earlswood nob

Hello,

 

I agree with you about looks and cab style. It would be interesting to see some pics of your OO version.

 

Here are some more pics of my 2mm version. Usually I find that errors on the first test etch mean another test etch is needed, but so far the errors I've made have been correctable, and I'm pleasantly surprised by how well most of the bits fit together. I must be getting the hang of this etching lark!

 

 

The main bits of the etch still to do are the steps and the tender axleboxes. Fingers crossed that bits I've etched for the latter will go together as planned else I'm snookered.

 

According to Barry Lane in his book, 'L & Y Locomotives', two of these locos worked from Pontypool Road GWR shed from early 1918. Presumably a wartime expedient.

 

Nig H

[Branwell]

Looking good so far Nigel - nice to see tender drive to preserve the gap under the boiler.

 

David V.

[Nig H]

Here are a few more pics showing progress to date. The smokebox front has also been assembled so the only thing left to do from the etch is the axlebox/ spring assemblies for the tender, and some lamp irons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nig H

[Nig H]

Here are some pics with almost all the work using the etched parts done, except for the loco brake gear, and smokebox door hinge. This will be attached after the chassis and wheels are painted. The smokebox front is attached with blu tack at the moment, which is just as well as I need to move the smokebox handrail upwards slightly.

 

 

 

 

The tender axlebox/ spring assemblies turned out OK in the end, although a pain to make, comprising 11 different parts each. I'll paint them then araldite them to the tender frames  after the tender has been painted. The handrail knob holes look huge but they are only 0.4mm

 

Nig H

 

I managed to get a pic of the tender axleboxes as attached. I think they're reasonably close to what the real things look like.

 

Edited August 27, 2016 by Nig H

[Jon Fitness]

That really captures the brutish look of these locos.

There's even a "heavy" look about the model that's usually only apparent in the larger scales. Lovely stuff!

 

Also, just wondering, if the s/b door was rotated 180degrees would the handrail then be in the right position??

Jon F.

[Nig H]

That really captures the brutish look of these locos.

There's even a "heavy" look about the model that's usually only apparent in the larger scales. Lovely stuff!

 

Also, just wondering, if the s/b door was rotated 180degrees would the handrail then be in the right position??

Jon F.

Hello Jon,

 

Thanks for you comments. I've a pic of 52870, and you can see the smokebox handrail is above the centreline of the door. So, turning the door through 180 degrees will not solve the problem unfortunately.  Fingers crossed I will be able to unsolder the handrail and nothing else on the door, then re-position it.

 

I've just noticed the door has eight dogs, not the six on my model - bother!!

 

Nig H

[nick_bastable]

looking very  good and best of luck with the quartering ( speaking as one who has serious problems quartering a 0-4-0    )

 

Nick

[Wyvern]

looking very  good and best of luck with the quartering ( speaking as one who has serious problems quartering a 0-4-0    )

 

Nick

 

Having used the quartering jig I wouldn't install wheels without it - its so much easier.....

[John lewsey]

Oh dear the shopping list has just grown

[Nig H]

Here are some pics showing the loco nearing completion. There is a bit of tweaking (e.g. the drawbar connection) needed to get it running properly, then the backhead, cab windows, weathering, coaling and the crew to add. The pics are a bit cruel - some of the errors are hardly noticeable to my eyes.

 

 

 

 

 

Now I need some mineral wagons to go behind the loco. Fifty should do it, but I'll maybe settle for 15 - 20!

 

 

Nig H

[Jon Fitness]

A splendid beast! Truly excellent workmanship too

 

JF

[Branwell]

Lovely job, Nigel - you going to mucky it up?

 

Will you be selling etches as well - can just picture one rumbling through Lightcliffe on a train of private owner wagons with one of your Aspinalls heading the other way on a local stopper.

 

David

[Nig H]

A splendid beast! Truly excellent workmanship too

 

JF

Thanks JF. Overall the build went well especially for the first test etch. A couple of issues to resolve but fingers crossed they will be.

 

Lovely job, Nigel - you going to mucky it up?

 

Will you be selling etches as well - can just picture one rumbling through Lightcliffe on a train of private owner wagons with one of your Aspinalls heading the other way on a local stopper.

 

David

Hello David,

 

Thanks, and yes I'll be weathering it to make it look like the photos I've seen in its 1950/51 condition, and hide some of the transfer issues a bit. I'm not sure about producing more etches. Things like instructions are a pain to do.

 

Regards,

 

Nigel

[Chris Higgs]

Lovely work Nigel.

 

Although the more I look at L&Y 0-8-0s I get the impression that's where Lima got the ideas for their infamous 4F - a boiler far too large for the rest of the loco!

 

Chris

Edited September 19, 2016 by Chris Higgs

[Chris Higgs]

Here are some pics showing the loco nearing completion. There is a bit of tweaking (e.g. the drawbar connection) needed to get it running properly, then the backhead, cab windows, weathering, coaling and the crew to add. The pics are a bit cruel - some of the errors are hardly noticeable to my eyes.

 

L & Y 0-8-0 52870.JPG

 

L & Y 0-8-0 52870 (4).JPG

 

L & Y 0-8-0 52870 (5).JPG

 

L & Y 0-8-0 52870 (6).JPG

 

Now I need some mineral wagons to go behind the loco. Fifty should do it, but I'll maybe settle for 15 - 20!

 

 

Nig H

 

As it so happens I am working on some 3D prints for those high-sided coal wagons that the Lanky specialised in.

 

Chris

[Chris Higgs]

 

 

L & Y 0-8-0 52870 (6).JPG

 

 

Those Lanky locos certainly seem to have a massive coal hole for the firebox. Still, with that size of boiler what do you expect.

[Nig H]

Those Lanky locos certainly seem to have a massive coal hole for the firebox. Still, with that size of boiler what do you expect.

Well spotted Chris! In the 2mm world, with my chassis design, you have to insert the chassis at an angle to get the u/j shaft in so the coal hole needs to be extended down to the floor of the cab. I may have been generous with the dimensions at the top of the hole though. All this is very obvious with the short, very open cab.

 

Did the high-sided wagons last until the early 1950's? You'll do an etched chassis too?

 

Nig H