RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted July 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Hornby's latest version of the D49 in early BR livery looks rather nice for a railroad product. What I can tell from the pictures that Rails of Sheffield have put on their site it looks like a loco drive model. HERE Can anyone confirm this and further more how does it run? Cheers, Squatch. Edited July 22, 2016 by Sasquatch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) I would think it is Loco driven, I have the previous LNER version which has been hacked into a Hunt version. Mine has normal Hornby Drivers fitted, lead added to make up for the Traction tyres being binned and pick ups added to Bachmann Tender mine now pulls. She can just manage five bogies. In the photo it has the same traction tyres on the front drivers and the Tender appears the be the same old Tender drive version as on the LNER version. Edited July 22, 2016 by micklner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyC Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Hornby have repeated the mistake they made with the last release of this model. It's a Hunt, but they've fitted it with Walshaerts valve gear which would make it a Shire [Hunts had rotary cam poppet valves], except for the fact that Shires didn't have outside steam pipes. [i think that mould got modified for Edward in the Thomas range] As micklner says the last release was with a new loco drive chassis so I can't see they'd go back to the tender drive version, though if the one I've got is anything to go by it would probably pull more if they did! The new chassis runs well but is very light on its feet. Jeremy Edited July 22, 2016 by JeremyC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted July 22, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2016 I would think it is Loco driven, I have the previous LNER version which has been hacked into a Hunt version. Mine has normal Hornby Drivers fitted, lead added to make up for the Traction tyres being binned and pick ups added to Bachmann Tender mine now pulls. She can just manage five bogies. In the photo it has the same traction tyres on the front drivers and the Tender appears the be the same old Tender drive version as on the LNER version. Hi Mick. Thanks! After a google search I found Larry's (Coachman) conversion which shows the body removed. Looks like he left the tyres on and went in for a full detail job. here Hornby have repeated the mistake they made with the last release of this model. It's a Hunt, but they've fitted it with Walshaerts valve gear which would make it a Shire [Hunts had rotary cam poppet valves], except for the fact that Shires didn't have outside steam pipes. [i think that mould got modified for Edward in the Thomas range] As micklner says the last release was with a new loco drive chassis so I can't see they'd go back to the tender drive version, though if the one I've got is anything to go by it would probably pull more if they did! The new chassis runs well but is very light on its feet. Jeremy It would be quite easy to rename and number it as a D49/1 shire. I've had to add weight to some locos in order to gain traction, easiest way by gluing BB pellets in the body cavities! They're a nice looking loco for the price so I might get one and have a go at modeling... wait for it... 62765 The Goathland! What else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Pictures of mine here, the main reason I changed the drivers was to use the lined versions. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/943-lner-models-in-4mm/page-17 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Hi Mick. Thanks! After a google search I found Larry's (Coachman) conversion which shows the body removed. Looks like he left the tyres on and went in for a full detail job. here It would be quite easy to rename and number it as a D49/1 shire. I've had to add weight to some locos in order to gain traction, easiest way by gluing BB pellets in the body cavities! They're a nice looking loco for the price so I might get one and have a go at modeling... wait for it... 62765 The Goathland! What else. Two things to note if you rename to a Shire, as I mentioned before Shires had no outside steam pipes, the other is that most [possibly all] Shires had lost the LNER group standard tender by BR days, having a mixture of Great Central, North Eastern or rebuilt Great Central tenders. I think the latter had flat sides so is probably the nearest in appearance to the tender supplied. Looking at the RCTS 'green book' the subject of Shire tenders is a nightmare! It's worth noting that that Hornby, for some reason, moulded a reversing rod on both sides and this needs to be removed from the Firemans [RH] side. Fortunately I read Coachman's thread before I did my own conversion and so knew to remove it. Jeremy Edited July 23, 2016 by JeremyC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted July 23, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2016 Pictures of mine here, the main reason I changed the drivers was to use the lined versions. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/943-lner-models-in-4mm/page-17 Looking good! Already given a like on post 440. Shows how much I've been paying attention! NOT!! Regards Shaun. (Must catch up on your thread at some point.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted July 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2016 The real D49s might have been light-footed too—I've read (I think in one of Martin Bairstow's books) of two D49s coupled together struggling on inclines on the Whitby–Scarborough line with just a single coach (the rails were greasy due to sea mist). This is the sort of thing that, if modelled, would seem to be unprototypical... A problem the real railway doesn't have. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sasquatch Posted July 23, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2016 The real D49s might have been light-footed too—I've read (I think in one of Martin Bairstow's books) of two D49s coupled together struggling on inclines on the Whitby–Scarborough line with just a single coach (the rails were greasy due to sea mist). This is the sort of thing that, if modelled, would seem to be unprototypical... A problem the real railway doesn't have. There only a few locos in my collection that don't struggle with the gradients on the layout version. Double heading is common as is the use of the track cleaning rubber. I have found that the grit left behind acts like sand on the real railway!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankerbertha Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 7/22/2016 at 7:20 PM, micklner said: I would think it is Loco driven, I have the previous LNER version which has been hacked into a Hunt version. Mine has normal Hornby Drivers fitted, lead added to make up for the Traction tyres being binned and pick ups added to Bachmann Tender mine now pulls. She can just manage five bogies. In the photo it has the same traction tyres on the front drivers and the Tender appears the be the same old Tender drive version as on the LNER version. loco drive now, unfortunately with traction tyres what are the best wheels to replace these? still has flat piston rod which detracts a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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