HP Printer ink Cartridges

[antrobuscp]

This does not affect me personally, but I thought it might be of interest to some:-

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37408173

[Barry O]

It affects me and I am none too pleased about it. HP will be losing a customer as soon as this printer goes U/S. Their cartridges are very expensive against refilled ones. Not only that, they are no where near as environmentally friendly reused ones.

 

Perhaps if we all vote with our feet they may get the hint.. mind you they haven't with their approach to data they grab from our printers anyway.

 

Baz

[pete_mcfarlane]

HP are not exactly renowned for making the right business decisions. 

[Joseph_Pestell]

I accept the fact that printers are sold at artificially low prices so that they can make loadsamoney on selling ink. I recall getting an HP update a few weeks ago.

[hayfield]

I have used alternative ink cartridges a couple of times, both times (once with a Cannon the other with a HP printer) I was disappointed with the ink quality. I only but one every few months and as the printers are obviously heavily subsidised by the makers and or shops, so happy to pay for the genuine product, and with HP you have the choice of buying larger sized or multiple cartridge packs at a competitive price as the supermarkets seem to discount them.   

[antrobuscp]

I used to refill genuine ink cartridges, but only once for each cartridge before replacement. That seemed to work, but I seem to recall it became more difficult to achieve for some reason. For the last several years I've always used genuine branded inks and toners, albeit from the cheapest source I could find.

 

Colin

[bgman]

Wilko / Wilkinsons in Exeter sell the specific cartridges I require for my HP printer, original manufacture in a double pack for a lot less than the major supermarkets ( rhymes with Fresco ) hereabouts !

[PhilH]

i don't buy from the Uk (Canon Ink), still much cheaper, even now, to buy from Europe. they even chuck in UPS for free.

[Metr0Land]

I recently bought a couple of HP replacement cartridges from Cartridge Discount as recommended by someone on rmweb.

 

After all the hoo-ha I thought I'd better fit them and try them out - they seem to be working ok.

 

I'm wondering if the HP 'blocking' only applies to recent models?  I have a quite old HP7260 deskjet that pre-dates Win7.  It works ok under Win7 but there aren't (or weren't) any official drivers for this printer under Win7 - so I don't get some of the features like being able to see the ink levels.  I just guessing that because there aren't any drivers then it's not possible to send any blocking code?

[bertiedog]

It is not such a change as seems, as any cartridge that was working before on the HP is till OK if it is re-filled. It is the new cloned types that are sold as fitting the printer that are detected, and stop the printer.

I also doubt the printer really stops, other makers like Canon show warnings, but you just go ahead and use the cartridges. HP may have added a stop in the up grade, but It must be hackable, and work arounds will appear on the net, or just change back to an old driver.

So save the original HP cartridges or compatible, and refill yourself, rather than swapping for replacements in a store.

Stephen

[newbryford]

My all-in-one printer has an "error" apparently caused by using non-HP cartridges. The cartridges were bought from a very well known store that also sells HP printers.

The error has stopped me using the scan function, though what that has to do with ink cartridges is beyond me.

 

A non-HP printer is on order.

 

Cheers,

Mick

[Derekstuart]

HP stuff has been getting worse and worse. I have been a loyal customer for 15 years or so and seen their quality get poorer and poorer.

 

My most recent HP laptop is so badly made that if you pick it up by the edge it actually bends the body and will rock when you put it on a flat surface, requiring it to be bent back straight- it does wonders for any DVD in the drive.

 

All but one PC and all printers, laptops, servers at my company are HP. What I am finding is that the OLD HP stuff- some as old as 5 or more years are out-performing the new stuff. I recently bought an OKI laser for home and its running costs are much lower than HP, it starts printing far faster and its PPM is double that of the HPs.

 

I will not be buying any more HP products again- they have had their day, their customer service is non-existent and their quality control gets nil points.

[Derekstuart]

BTW I thought this practice had been banned by the eu, but on checking it was first discussed in 2002 and as of 2016 it is still being discussed.

 

I don't mean that as a political comment on the referendum, but I am surprised that this practice is legal- certainly I would have thought it would infringe our own Competition Act 1998, but as hp undoubtedly checked, it would seem that it doesn't.

[Ian J.]

According to The Register:

 

The affected HP printer models are apparently: the Officejet Pro 6830, 8610, 8615, 8620, 8625, 8630, 8640, 8660, x451dn, x451dw, x476dn, x476dw, x551dw, and x576dw.

 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/19/hp_ink_stink/

[Silver Sidelines]

I am more concerned by reports that HP have bought out Samsung Printers.  I have been quite impressed by my Samsung which we bought to replace an HP.

 

Ray

[Derekstuart]

The eu started looking at this in 2002, issuing advice and guidance that if it was not stopped voluntarily then they would take action to prevent it by force of law.

 

14 years and counting...

 

I wouldn't hold out too much hope of them dealing with this any time soon (either in Britain or Europe).

 

I wonder what the EU competitive and fair trade commissions have to say about this   And it's safe to assume HP will be next in line to be very rigorously scrutinised for tax evasion, fair trade stuff and a whole host of other practices they'll probably fail and get fined for

[Ian J.]

An update: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/28/hp_inc_coo_sorry_not_sorry/

[Joseph_Pestell]

Not sure if this is linked, but I can no longer purchase the HP cartridges for my printer locally. Have had to buy online for delivery (hopefully) today.

[newbryford]

An update: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/28/hp_inc_coo_sorry_not_sorry/

 

Stable door left open too long. The horse has purchased another make.........................

 

Cheers,

Mick

[Joseph_Pestell]

The eu started looking at this in 2002, issuing advice and guidance that if it was not stopped voluntarily then they would take action to prevent it by force of law.

 

14 years and counting...

 

I wouldn't hold out too much hope of them dealing with this any time soon (either in Britain or Europe).

 

Hmmm! Takes 14 years to deal with a fairly straightforward issue about printer cartridges. Yet we are supposed to manage Brexit within 2 years. Does that make sense to anyone?

[MJI]

I have a Canon and get genuine cartridges off Ebay cheap enough to use rather than aftermarket