RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 23, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2010 Hi All In the Ian Allan GWR Then & Now (1994 edition) there is a picture of Birmingham Snow Hill in the 1920s clearly showing a trailing 4 way point when entering platform 8/7 from the north. However in GWR stations Vol.4 (OPC 1985) a diagram dated C1925 shows a three way point followed closely by a single point Due to Snow Hill's cramped site there are plenty of 3 way points and single and double slips for maximum flexibility but apparantly just the one 4 way. I have never seen one on any other track diagram. Does anybody know whether there were many instances of 4 way points around the UK main line system? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart-AU Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 HI.. Here is one that was sent to me years ago. I think it's a model, I can't realy tell. Stuart in OZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 23, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2010 These would tend to be used in cramped urban goods yards. Although the LB&SC had a five way at Kemp Town. You may find onn close examination the point baldes might be staggered very slightly as though a Y point which breaks into another two y points. If you try to have all the point blades together the stock rails can end up slightly over gauge. There is also the problem of fitting in all the stretcher bars. Donw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrush Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 How about the ultimate cramped urban site, Kings Cross, which certainly had one in the early 1930's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew1974 Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 You may find onn close examination the point baldes might be staggered very slightly as though a Y point which breaks into another two y points. If you try to have all the point blades together the stock rails can end up slightly over gauge. There is also the problem of fitting in all the stretcher bars. Donw I don't think I have ever seen a photo of a '3 way' point that does not have slightly staggered point blades. The two pictues above certainly have staggered point blades. In fact, the only 3 way without staggered blades I have ever seen is in the peco catalogue!. (I'm not saying there weren't any....just that I have never seen them) Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Rail Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 No idea who built this rather impressive beast, I've had the pic saved on my hard drive for a while, does anyone know whose layout it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 anyone know whose layout it is? Green Street Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted March 24, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2010 Apologies had my facts muddled the LB&SC at Kemp Town was a four way at the station throat. It was the SNCF that had a five way. Donw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock & Rail Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Green Street Cheers. Is that 5 way based on a prototype, or is it just a trackbuilder showing off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 24, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2010 Thanks to all those who replied to my original post. Seems that they did exist, although not too common. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew1974 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Cheers. Is that 5 way based on a prototype, or is it just a trackbuilder showing off? No idea if it is based on a prototype but I'm sure it is a bit of showing off....and if you can build points like that then why not show off a bit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flymo748 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 No idea if it is based on a prototype but I'm sure it is a bit of showing off....and if you can build points like that then why not show off a bit! Built by Tony Wilkins of the Scalefour Society. I haven't spoken to him about it to confirm it, but I expect that you will find him demonstrating track-building on the Scalefour Society stand at the Ally Pally show this weekend. Drop by and have a chat with him - he's always very happy to share his experiences. Cheers Flymo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 More information on the CLAG website: http://www.clag.org.uk, Specifically http://www.clag.org....struction1.html and http://www.clag.org.uk/green14.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portchullin Tatty Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 More information on the CLAG website: http://www.clag.org.uk, Specifically http://www.clag.org....struction1.html and http://www.clag.org.uk/green14.html With the following line I note............................... "All Green Street's trackwork was built by Tony Wilkins. Please don't tell Tony that there is a piece of trackwork more complicated than a 5-way: he will probably insist on building it... " Now come on, that has got to be a challenge! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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