nebnoswal Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 It appears the new Farish Balck 5 has arrived at the offices of Model Rail and is currently being reviewed. It looks very very nice , apart from the shiney coal! Looks like May is going to be an expensive month, new Manor, new Black 5's http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=4143340&id=176420418206 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Looks like May is going to be an expensive month, new Manor, new Black 5's For me it's likely to be expensive because of Dapols class 86 electric, class 58 diesel and silver bullets rather than a couple of old steamies. But nice to see something for our N steamy enthusiasts. After all they've waited long enough. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Excellent, final piece of the jigsaw for my LMS layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Very nice indeed and a world away from the old Poole-era offering. I hope it leads to the Standard 5 being done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebnoswal Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Ok, so it wasn't an expensive May, but will be in July. Retailers are announcing that the first of the new Balck 5's are now available. Just got my notification from Hattons, so my order is placed and paid for. Hopefully there are no issues like I've had this week with the new 4MT. Its going to be a week before mine gets here down-under, hopefully some of you more local English/Scotish/Welshmen will have one in the next 48hrs and give a report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebnoswal Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Was interested to note this morning (evening in the UK) that Hattons now only has 6 of the New Black 5's left in stock. And this only 12 hours after listing it on their website and sending the notifications to all those who pre-ordered! Glad I ordered mine early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted July 14, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14, 2010 Decided I could escape my chores early so here are some more thoughts and photos. On removal from the box the metal "coal" fell out, so I decided to swap the blanking plate a DCC decoder. At the blanking plate is a bit bigger than the Digitrax DZ125 and Bachmann's own decoder it was a breeze to do, no need to remove the tender body. The coal load isn't very convincing though, and keeps on getting pushed up as the red and black wires are a bit long. Back to DC running and the loco wheels moved ok by hand, but refused to rotate when the loco was running in reverse. Also it stuttered a bit, so it appears that the pickups need adjusting. The gap between the tender and loco is ok. However, the tender joiner is slightly longer than the standard on supplied with the 4MT, so depending upon radius of curves and a willingness to remove the bumpers on the tender I might fit the 4MT bar. It looks a beaut. Great photos and good info--thanks. How does the 'coal' fit--is it just a matter of prising it upwards to get it out (assuming it's not as loose as yours)? Re the pick-ups, maybe you should first check the bogie isn't screwed on too tightly; after fitting short NEMs to my Jubilee, the loco wheels wouldn't revolve--cured by loosening the screw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McRuss Posted July 14, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14, 2010 Your Black Five looks great, but what confused me is that your engine got other loconumbers than that showed on the GF homepage. According to GF their BR liveries should have the numbers 45110 and 45151. Markus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 bachfarish replaced 45151 with 45216 in some listings some time ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Can anyone confirm what radius curves you need to run the larger wheel diameter front bogie please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted July 16, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2010 18 inches,according to the instructions.I have not tried to verify that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebnoswal Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 13 days latter and its finally made it down under. It ran perfect straight out of the box. I ran it in as soon as I got home, then had to stop for meals and bathing of the young'un. After dinner I commenced the running out, whilst doing the dishes. Load wise, I manged 14 Stanier coaches with no problems. I would of tried more, but meant unpacking them, and it was getting late, and cold! Took some comparsion photos against the Farish version. What will Farish do next to make good use of this tender drive, a 8F or a Duchess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr b Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 talking of the other side of the world did'nt the MOD send stanier 5's os 8's to Burma ? then relised there was no coal on the island , had them converted to oil by this time it was all over, one of our recently decised neibours often talked obout times in the Reme in Burma. Mr B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Charon Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 What will Farish do next to make good use of this tender drive, a 8F or a Duchess? I think I asked this question before, though I forget whether it was here or on another board. Apparently the Duchess uses a (slightly) different tender. So it's more likely to be an 8F next. I'd rather see a Princess though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 talking of the other side of the world did'nt the MOD send stanier 5's os 8's to Burma ? then relised there was no coal on the island , had them converted to oil by this time it was all over, one of our recently decised neibours often talked obout times in the Reme in Burma. Mr B I don't think Black 5's went abroad with the WD - 8Fs did a plenty though..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 talking of the other side of the world did'nt the MOD send stanier 5's os 8's to Burma ? then relised there was no coal on the island , had them converted to oil by this time it was all over, one of our recently decised neibours often talked obout times in the Reme in Burma. Mr B Burma is not an island. However, there is quite a bit of oil in the area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted July 21, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 21, 2010 talking of the other side of the world did'nt the MOD send stanier 5's os 8's to Burma ? then relised there was no coal on the island , had them converted to oil by this time it was all over, one of our recently decised neibours often talked obout times in the Reme in Burma. Mr B It would be a challenge running them on metre gauge railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcadian Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 It would be a challenge running them on metre gauge railways. Well, we expect them to run quite well on 4 foot one and a half inches though, which is getting some way towards metre gauge, certainly less than standard gauge! I'll just apologise for restarting the '00 is narrow gauge' theme and go to bed now! Edit: Just remembered that this is in Farish, so we N gaugers are only requiring them to run on 4 ft 6 ins track - the 00 folk are the ones with more experience of them on the four foot and a bit! Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebnoswal Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 I don't think Black 5's went abroad with the WD - 8Fs did a plenty though..... There is an old 8F sitting out the front of the main Baghdad railway workshops. And, somewhere in the desert, while out on patrol back in 2006 we came across an old tender, which I easily recognised as being a Stanier 4000 gal type. Unfortunately I didn't have my camera at the time and was not allowed to inspect it closely, as we did not hav any EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal) techs with us to clear it of nasty surprises. For the next 6 months I tried to get back out there to try and liberate the builder's plate, but it never eventuated. I've still got the co-ords for it, but Google earth imagery for featureless areas of desert is not updated very often. Using work imagery, is a different story, and not for discussion here, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingley hall Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 talking of the other side of the world did'nt the MOD send stanier 5's os 8's to Burma ? then relised there was no coal on the island , had them converted to oil by this time it was all over, one of our recently decised neibours often talked obout times in the Reme in Burma. Mr B No to Burma and No to Black Fives. Countries that Stanier 8Fs ended up in at various times as the result of wartime excursions included Iraq, Iran, Israel, Palestine, Egypt, Turkey and Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Surely the 9F should be next...? (perhaps we are talking after that) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 What's the verdict on these now, a few months after release? Is there a problem with its running? And how is it for fitting DCC decoder? I'm considering purchasing a late crest version to run alongside my green diesels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 What's the verdict on these now, a few months after release? Is there a problem with its running? And how is it for fitting DCC decoder? I'm considering purchasing a late crest version to run alongside my green diesels. Firstly, with regards to DCC fitting checking their website shows a DCC logo against the model listing which "Denotes Locos equipped with an NMRA/NEM 651 6-pin socket" so basically a simple plug in operation. Secondly, I have seen quite a few reports about poor running but no doubt just as many will probably say they've had no problem with their model. Also people have said that where they have had problems a few simple tweaks with the pick ups usually sorts out the problem and, of course, alternatively you have the right to return it to the retailer for refund, replacement or repair. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 I have seen quite a few reports about poor running Where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Hi Alan I think Grahame may be referring to one or two posters on Model Railway Forum one of whom has since fixed his loco by tweaking pickups, the other has added more weight by removing the DCC socket. Certainly I am unaware of "quite a few" and reviews in model railway press has been overwhelmingly favourable as far as I know. Speaking from my own personal experience (Which is possibly of more value) I have two new Black Fives and they are absolutely superb in respect of both looks and running. With a single tyred axle both happily pull 30 freight vehicles on level track, both are well made, smooth quiet runners and superbly detailed just as the Scots and Jubs were before them. I am very happy with them. Cheers Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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