Help identifying a GNR 0-6-0

[PGN]

I acquired this N gauge scratch build last year, and I've been trying to identify it ever since. I am assuming that its running number (394) is a correct locomotive number for the prototype ... but what IS the prototype? I mean, obviously it's going to be a J-something or other ... but what is that something or other?

 

(And yes ... I'm aware that the numerical designations changed between the GNR and LNER scemes, so that a GNR J13 became an LNER J52, and a GNR J23 became an LNER J50 or J51 ... so it would be helpful if any replies make it clear whether they're using the GNR or LNER classification ... )

 

I should be very grateful for any thoughts that people might have.

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by PGN

[bécasse]

It is a J4, built in 1900 and withdrawn, as LNER 3394, in 1932.

[PGN]

Thanks Becasse ... Is that J4 in the GNR classification, or J4 in the LNER classification?

[micklner]

https://www.lner.info/locos/J/j3j4.php

[PGN]

3 hours ago, micklner said:

https://www.lner.info/locos/J/j3j4.php

 

Yes ... quite. I've read all that (several times) and it leaves my head spinning!

 

Hence my question ... is my locomotive a J4 in GNR-speak, or is it a J4 in LNER-speak? And if it's a J4 in LNER-speak, what does that mean it is in  GNR-speak?

[JamieR4489]

LNER J4, GNR J5

[phil_sutters]

Now you know what the crew looks like as well!

 

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by phil_sutters
Additional info

[Steamport Southport]

Were they short on the GNR?   

 

Those driving wheels are only 5 Foot 2. I'm wondering whether they are young cleaners posing for the photo. They probably started when they were about 14.

[phil_sutters]

On 04/01/2021 at 15:14, Steamport Southport said:

Were they short on the GNR?   

 

Those driving wheels are only 5 Foot 2. I'm wondering whether they are young cleaners posing for the photo. They probably started when they were about 14.

They don't look that young. The one on the right seems to have a moustache.