Taff vale wagon colours

[ian@60]

Hi i am building a couple dragon models Taff vale wagons and i am trying to find out what colour they were painted .  I looked on Phoenix paints web site and they do not do any Taff vale colours.

 

Thanks Ian

[BMS]

Good to see TVR anything.

What period are you modelling?

http://www.igg.org.uk/rail/00-app2/gwr/tvr.htm

http://www.gwr.org.uk/notvr1.html

A couple of decent refs for you.

For a book try "Great Western Way" from HMRS

Hope this helps.

If you are modelling South Wales then the Welsh Railway Research Circle (WRRC) iis a good place to join.

Hope this helps

 

[Il Grifone]

I painted my TVR van a crimson colour (information was even harder to obtain in the seventies when i built it), but I understand it should be 'red-brown' which covers a multitude of sins.

 

http://www.igg.org.uk/rail/00-app2/gwr/tvr.htm

 

My van is shown in the above link. It is longer than the 16 feet estimated.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Il Grifone

[Ian Simpson]

Ernest Carter's (1952) Britain's Railway Liveries, which is normally a good source on pre-group colour  schemes, only has one short entry for wagons. Carter writes that in 1898: "Goods stock was a dark rich red, with white lettering. The ends of goods brakes were vermilion, and all ironwork was painted black."

[corneliuslundie]

Digby's "The liveries of the Pre-Grouping Railways Volume 1. Wales and the west of England covers the Taff Vale, and generally follows the HMRS and Carter. He has paintings of locos, carriages and wagons, though of course colour printing is a bit erratic. But it is probably as good a guide as any, and he gives his sources and colour references. I have painted my couple of TVR vehicles red brown too.

Jonathan