Paul H Vigor Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Hi, Just acquired this rather pretty 2-4-0T loco body from eBay. I suspect it's scratchbuilt from brass - don't think it's a kit. At present it claims to be a GWR loco. It has a number, 1170, painted onto the underside - I believe the GWR number 1170 was assigned to a Buffalo saddle tank? This model may represent a loco absorbed by the GWR at the Grouping? Alternatively it may be a well-proportioned freelance design? Google Images has produced similar looking locos but not a match. Any thoughts gratefully received. TIA. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Looks like some sort of Sharp Stewart. Jason 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Looks like some sort of Sharp Stewart. Jason I guess its not out of the question that it might be an 0-6-0T? It shares similarities with Stewart Reidpath custom builds? When it arrives I will try the body with a S-R 0-6-0 chassis, see if it fits and how it looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted February 12, 2021 Author Share Posted February 12, 2021 56 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Looks like some sort of Sharp Stewart. Jason I wondered about M&SWJR origins? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimC Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 1189-1194 were mainly Sharp Stewart 2-4-0Ts. I'm not sure 1170 was allocated to anything absorbed. I'm sure a tank engine like that would not have been lined out, even simply like that, and I would have thought anything in GWR green livery would have had two whistles and a safety valve cover. So a pretty little freelance I suspect. Looks like something the Cambrian or MSWJR could have owned, I suppose! Edited February 12, 2021 by JimC 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 12, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2021 The Barry Railway A class was a Sharpie 0-6-0T and the C a 2-4-0T, also Sharp, Stewart, and this loco might be intended to represent one of these. If so the livery is incorrect, as the A were all scrapped by 1932 and the C by 1928, while the shirtbutton dates from 1934. The number is well off for the Barry locos; the GW renumbered the A class (there were 5) between 699 and 706, and the C class (there were 4 of these) 783/4 and 1322/3. Of course a number painted underneath might not refer to the loco’s running number at all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) To me, it looks Peckett, most like the 4-4-0T built for the Schull and Skib in Ireland. Its not something ex-WC&P is it? The Jack suggest LR to me. Edited February 12, 2021 by Nearholmer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKPR Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Possibly a Golden Arrow Productions kit for a Beyer-Peacock IoWCR 2-4-0T that has been modified to produce an ex-M&SWJR (ex-SM&AR) 2-4-0T ? 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Vigor Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 The loco body has arrived! It's a very neat build. Suggests a good scratch build in brass rather than an etched kit. Has some simplified backhead detailing. Body is well weighted with lead. Suspect it could easily be an 0-6-0T with smaller diameter driving wheels? I need to source a replacement leading wheel leafspring casting (as found on GWR Metro tanks). BTW, it features a Westinghouse pump and tiny sprung buffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimC Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I think only one of the GW absorbed lines used air brakes, but I can't remember which one it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, JimC said: I think only one of the GW absorbed lines used air brakes, but I can't remember which one it was. Rhymney. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 I haven't got the books to hand, but may I suggest the Alexander Docks & Junction Railway? ISTR that something similar made it's way to Newport. One company did indeed acquire a Metro, but blowed if I can remember. That's a nice looking model. I'd suggest the Western would replace the Salter safety valves PDQ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimC Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Its certainly like nothing the Rhymney had built. What do you know about the provenance? I wonder if this little model has been through a number of hands, and that the GW paint has no connection with the original builder's intentions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted February 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2021 Having had a look at the 'Absorbed Locomotives' book, may I suggest you have a look at Cambrian Railways No 44? Cab is a pretty good likeness, and the bunker is spot-on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Pictures of Cam Rlys No 44 a bit thin on the ground, but I did find this one at https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p469896013 Not too sure of the likeness, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium NCB Posted February 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 23, 2021 Not 44, which had more substantial cab and tanks. Doesn't look like a Cambrian beast at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 It looks to me like an accurate model of Isle of Wight Central Railway No. 8. Built by Beyer Peacock and delivered in 1898 and withdrawn by the Southern in 1929. Note the photo caption is incorrect, as their 1875 Beyers were even smaller. No 8 was also smaller than the large Beyers as modelled in the Golden Arrow kit, which were supplied to the Isle of Wight Railway, although the IoWCR acquired a similar one purchased in 1906 from the MSWJR. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Just a note that the Mainly Trains chassis for the Cambrian 2-4-0T, https://www.wizardmodels.ltd/shop/locomotive/mt104/ , might be a suitable underpinning for this model, with a few modifications, assuming it's 4mm:- IoWCR No. 8 - Wheelbase 5' 10" + 6' 4" - wheels 3' 4" and 5' 1" GWR No. 1192 - Wheelbase 6' 0" + 6' 3" - wheels 3' 0" and 4' 6" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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