RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Hi all, your Norwegian GWR probie here *waves* I am in need of your guidance here I'm trying to find good kits for GWR stations. I'm modelling in 00, going to have two mainline stations and a branch-line station. Found gaugemasters Mortimer that I feel is a mainline station I can use https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/magento/gaugemaster-gm430.html Oxford rail/Hornby GWR station looks very much like a mainline station too But, I am really struggeling to find a good branch-line station. Am considering gaugemasters Fordhampton, but not sure https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/magento/gaugemaster-gm401.html Need help here guys and gals Edited March 5, 2021 by THS92-GWR-NO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 The Ratio kit is a good one. https://www.hattons.co.uk/40600/ratio_504_stone_built_station_building_plastic_kit/stockdetail.aspx It's a model of Castle Cary station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Cary_railway_station https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4543519 The "Fordhampton" station is a model of Dunster on the West Somerset Railway and used to be sold as Dunster in the Hornby range. The signal box was also Dunster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunster_railway_station Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 The Ratio kit is very good indeed. For variety you might want to look at LCut: http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?page=pages/hub&title=LCC Bundles&gauge=OO Scalescenes has excellent kits as well: https://scalescenes.com/railscenes/ These are quite a bit of work since the base structure has to be cut out. Very like scratchbuilding with the painting done for you. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 There are several of the Hornby Dunster station kits currently listed on eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Hornby+Dunster+station&_sacat=0 When released by Hornby, they came with a piece of platform sized to fit the station building (complete with a raised moulding to locate it) so you should be able to slot it straight into your existing platform if you want to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 5, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2021 Great response guys! 5 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: The Ratio kit is a good one. https://www.hattons.co.uk/40600/ratio_504_stone_built_station_building_plastic_kit/stockdetail.aspx It's a model of Castle Cary station. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Cary_railway_station https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4543519 The "Fordhampton" station is a model of Dunster on the West Somerset Railway and used to be sold as Dunster in the Hornby range. The signal box was also Dunster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunster_railway_station Jason But not very light and dark stone over that building? Thought also most GWR stations were brick and not stone? 4 hours ago, brossard said: The Ratio kit is very good indeed. For variety you might want to look at LCut: http://lcut.co.uk/index.php?page=pages/hub&title=LCC Bundles&gauge=OO Scalescenes has excellent kits as well: https://scalescenes.com/railscenes/ These are quite a bit of work since the base structure has to be cut out. Very like scratchbuilding with the painting done for you. John The lcut.co.uk ones are already cut? Whereas scalescenes need cutting? Have a Wills craftman kit that I've given up on due to cutting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 LCut are ready cut (by laser). The material is sort of a card. I like these a lot. Laser cut ply kits (like Timber Tracks) are pretty expensive. LCut are good value IMO. Scalescenes are downloaded and come as PDF. You need to supply card stock, paper, ink and, of course, printer. I'm a great fan. I have built a lot of Scalescenes in both 00 and 0. I have also built a lot of LCut in 0. Use PVA to stick these together. I have built Wills Craftsman kits and the material sheets are very difficult to cut. Cut from the back and make several passes with a fairly heavy knife, such as Olfa. You can usually snap plastic sheet without having to cut all the way through. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, brossard said: LCut are ready cut (by laser). The material is sort of a card. I like these a lot. Laser cut ply kits (like Timber Tracks) are pretty expensive. LCut are good value IMO. Scalescenes are downloaded and come as PDF. You need to supply card stock, paper, ink and, of course, printer. I'm a great fan. I have built a lot of Scalescenes in both 00 and 0. I have also built a lot of LCut in 0. Use PVA to stick these together. I have built Wills Craftsman kits and the material sheets are very difficult to cut. Cut from the back and make several passes with a fairly heavy knife, such as Olfa. You can usually snap plastic sheet without having to cut all the way through. John Ah, thanks for the description Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 hours ago, THS92-GWR-NO said: Thought also most GWR stations were brick and not stone? There really is no such thing as a standard GWR station, except perhaps the original Brunel designed ones, as many GWR branchlines were taken over from originally independently built lines. The Ratio 504 is a good kit but comes in one colour (from memory) and requires painting. Also available via Gaugemaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 It depends on what era the buildings were built. There was a lot of new buildings built during the 1920s and 1930s to replace older buildings, some of which were getting on for being nearly 100 years old. Quite a lot of it was government money lent during the Great Depression to create work for the unemployed builders and labourers. These were often brick and were to standard designs. Didcot engine shed is a good example. https://didcotrailwaycentre.org.uk/article.php/310/the-1932-engine-shed-when-new The local railways is a valid point. Many buildings were built by local companies who often used what materials were available. If you look at North Wales many of the buildings were slate. In the Cotswolds they used local Cotswold Stone. This website is useful for colours. There are also a few photographs of GWR stations. https://www.stationcolours.info/great-western-railway/ Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Heljan used to produce a range of OO kits for Hales in the UK. Look for codes AH1 to AH7. AH2 is a model of Teignmouth station building, quite an impressive structure, and the range included a signal box, goods shed, footbridge, small platform shelter, many with a GW air to them, houses and a rather nice church. Many still out there on the second-hand market, a lot were sold off cheaply at one time, and perhaps, being Danish, Heljan might be easier to find in Norway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyRule1 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) If you don't mind card Prototype do a model of Chalford https://anticsonline.uk/Product/Prototype-Models-46W9-GWR-Chalford-Station-Building-Card-Kit-OO_N105280312 Other suppliers are available. Edited March 6, 2021 by MyRule1 Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 Both Dunster and Castle Cary stations were built by independent railway companies, though I believe castle Cary was designed by Robert Brereton who is was Brunel's deputy. So neither were originally GWR. To be honest, unless you are looking for a "standard" GWR station built in the 1920s or after, pretty much any design would be ok. It's much more the dressing of the model that makes it GWR..ie the paint scheme, benches, signaling, poster boards etc. The ratio kits are excellent. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 The GWR wasn't averse to using stone - particularly for larger stations, though in some instances for smaller ones, particularly if there was a readily available local supply . Remember that until the railway line was built, building materials would have been awkward to transport long distances in any sort of quantity. Reading, I believe, was built from stone dug out of Sonning Cutting, which was effectively free! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: Heljan used to produce a range of OO kits for Hales in the UK. Look for codes AH1 to AH7. AH2 is a model of Teignmouth station building, quite an impressive structure, and the range included a signal box, goods shed, footbridge, small platform shelter, many with a GW air to them, houses and a rather nice church. Many still out there on the second-hand market, a lot were sold off cheaply at one time, and perhaps, being Danish, Heljan might be easier to find in Norway. Ah, thanks! Found a few on ebay, will have to look deeper into that! 5 hours ago, MyRule1 said: If you don't mind card Prototype do a model of Chalford https://anticsonline.uk/Product/Prototype-Models-46W9-GWR-Chalford-Station-Building-Card-Kit-OO_N105280312 Other suppliers are available. From childhood I've always had an allergy to cardboard kits 3 hours ago, ikcdab said: Both Dunster and Castle Cary stations were built by independent railway companies, though I believe castle Cary was designed by Robert Brereton who is was Brunel's deputy. So neither were originally GWR. To be honest, unless you are looking for a "standard" GWR station built in the 1920s or after, pretty much any design would be ok. It's much more the dressing of the model that makes it GWR..ie the paint scheme, benches, signaling, poster boards etc. The ratio kits are excellent. I see, also important with a good GWR canopy, that doesn't seem to have been used in that design by any others? 2 hours ago, RJS1977 said: The GWR wasn't averse to using stone - particularly for larger stations, though in some instances for smaller ones, particularly if there was a readily available local supply . Remember that until the railway line was built, building materials would have been awkward to transport long distances in any sort of quantity. Reading, I believe, was built from stone dug out of Sonning Cutting, which was effectively free! That is a very good point indeed. . I just want my stations to give that GWR feeling, not some easy standard Hornby buildings like the ones I got to start with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Thomas, Here's another site that may be of interest to you http://www.gwr.org.uk/liveriesstructures.html plus the rest of the site. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 Thanks Jeff I have looked a bit through that site and after reading the book "Modelling the Great Western branchlines" led me to belive stone and slate wasn't GWR's cup of tea. I see I was mistaken I was almost ready to order Gaugemasters "FORDHAMPTON" when I read that the walls are mearly self adheasive overlays. I thought based on the Mortimer model that it would be better realism to it than that. https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/magento/gaugemaster-gm401.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 4 hours ago, THS92-GWR-NO said: I see, also important with a good GWR canopy, that doesn't seem to have been used in that design by any others? Every canopy was different! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 Well yeah, but the general style seems to be something LNER / LMS / SR didn't really use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, THS92-GWR-NO said: Thanks Jeff I have looked a bit through that site and after reading the book "Modelling the Great Western branchlines" led me to belive stone and slate wasn't GWR's cup of tea. I see I was mistaken Yes, quite. They used whatever was most convenient or suitable. Most early stations were built of stone, though they might not have been GWR designed. But if there wasn't stone easily available, then brick might have been used. When Minehead station was extended in 1923, the GWR duplicated the original Minehead Railway Company design and used the same stone. Interestingly, GWR signalboxes were almost always brick or timber. Apart from an odd few, I can't think of any stone GWR signalboxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 RIght. I would have expected stations and their signal boxes to have the same design for the most part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 11 hours ago, MyRule1 said: If you don't mind card Prototype do a model of Chalford https://anticsonline.uk/Product/Prototype-Models-46W9-GWR-Chalford-Station-Building-Card-Kit-OO_N105280312 Other suppliers are available. Thomas, The self coloured plastic kits look pretty horrible to me. If you are not wanting to paint anything then the above card kit would look ok. Printed brick is in my opinion better than printed stone. I have made Prototype Models items before and they are good. From memory they need to be cut with straight edge and hobby knife. PVA is a good glue but takes a while to set. The cut visible edges can be coloured with marker pens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, THS92-GWR-NO said: RIght. I would have expected stations and their signal boxes to have the same design for the most part Not really. Signalboxes were rare in the early days when the stations were built. Signalboxes were added later and were to standard designs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jeff Smith said: Thomas, The self coloured plastic kits look pretty horrible to me. If you are not wanting to paint anything then the above card kit would look ok. Printed brick is in my opinion better than printed stone. I have made Prototype Models items before and they are good. From memory they need to be cut with straight edge and hobby knife. PVA is a good glue but takes a while to set. The cut visible edges can be coloured with marker pens. Hey Jeff Painting is not a problem I've previously used Faller in H0 before I started in 00, and found them to be great in color and details. Hence why I look for a good counter part to that - I guess I should get my feet wet Branchline: Thinking of trying either GM401 Fordhampton or Ratio 504. I also found the Heljan AH4 and Wills SS60 shelters looking quite good, though a bit small. Mainline: GM430 Mortimer and whichever I don't use on the branch maybe, or Oxford Rail / Hornby GWR station. 3 minutes ago, ikcdab said: Not really. Signalboxes were rare in the early days when the stations were built. Signalboxes were added later and were to standard designs Ah, that is a good point. That also solves my need for getting similar buildings. Cheers Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) The "Fordhampton" signal box is the one now at Minehead. Made to go with the station, there is also a footbridge. Originally made for Hornby by Pola but now part of Gaugemasters range. https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/magento/model-railways/gm-structures-brand5/gaugemaster-gm402.html Built in 1934. Previously it was at Dunster but moved to Minehead in the 1970s and before that it was in Maerdy in South Wales. https://signalbox.org/branch-lines/west-somerset-railway-signalling/ http://cgibin.wsr.org.uk/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?h=Snapshot&p=1972/1972_35_njo Jason Edited March 6, 2021 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold THS92-GWR-NO Posted March 6, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: The "Fordhampton" signal box is the one now at Minehead. Made to go with the station, there is also a footbridge. Originally made for Hornby by Pola but now part of Gaugemasters range. https://www.gaugemasterretail.com/magento/model-railways/gm-structures-brand5/gaugemaster-gm402.html Built in 1934. Previously it was at Dunster but moved to Minehead in the 1970s and before that it was in Maerdy in South Wales. https://signalbox.org/branch-lines/west-somerset-railway-signalling/ Jason Hey Jason, thank you for your input That box is high on my list too 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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