Complex layout modelling

[BR traction instructor]

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by BR traction instructor

[BR traction instructor]

Route learning schools with their in cab film footage demonstrating journeys through complex junctions/signalling layouts etc backing up aide memoirs such as local maps/signalling simplifiers are beyond the limitations of many model railway situations but the resources do add to a modellers understanding of the BR system of signal numbering/individual track identification etc.

 

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Edited December 12, 2021 by BR traction instructor

[Rugd1022]

Nice to see some old school maps of routes I sign 

 

(As I type this Saltley PSB is being demolished to make way for the HS2 flyover into Curzon St.)

Edited December 12, 2021 by Rugd1022

[BR traction instructor]

…shame to leave them gathering dust, better to share the gen. These publications came my way when a boating friend’s steam era driver/father passed away. He asked me to help as many others as possible with their contents.

 

Humping signal aspects are an unusual inclusion in the Crewe booklet.

 

Semaphore stop signals with associated route indicators are a model-able option…

 

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Edited December 12, 2021 by BR traction instructor

[BR traction instructor]

Classification and Marshalling of Freight Trains is another rare publication and shows how even apparent block trainloads can consist of various portions…

 

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[BR traction instructor]

Drivers/guards signing affected routes were issued with signalling notices such as this one from 1966 for Stoke on Trent when significant alterations took place…in this case the upgrade from semaphore to multiple aspect colour light. The significance to modellers of the period is the way in which the signalling system of the day was arranged and the signal types used, creating a layout very much of its time.

 

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[BR traction instructor]

Edited December 14, 2021 by BR traction instructor

[Darius43]

Wonderful stuff.  My family lived in Newcastle-under-Lyme from 1967 to 1978 and I have fond memories of watching and catching trains at Stoke Station in the early 1970s.  I remember the vast sidings next to the station - now vanished under a car park.

 

Cheers

 

Darius

[BR traction instructor]

…shame to leave them gathering dust…much better to share

 

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[Rugd1022]

I need to dig out the old maps I liberated from the Road Learning School at Rugby about fifteen years ago when Virgin stripped the room bare, they were going to bin the lot. The 1973 map for Northampton still has five signalboxes on it!

[Rivercider]

On 14/12/2021 at 09:11, BR traction instructor said:

Classification and Marshalling of Freight Trains is another rare publication and shows how even apparent block trainloads can consist of various portions…

 

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I now wish I had saved the old office copies of the WR Freight Trains Marshalling booklets when I had the chance.

The services changed quite quickly at the end of the vacuum braked era, I remember by 1978/79 7M67 was a Exeter Riverside to Warrington service that conveyed nuclear traffic from Bridgwater,

 

cheers

 

cheers

[BR traction instructor]

…every publication is an important piece of the BR jigsaw.

 

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[MidlandRed]

22 hours ago, BR traction instructor said:

…shame to leave them gathering dust…much better to share

 

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These plans are fascinating - thanks for posting. On the Stoke on Trent plans, whereabouts are the Cockshute diesel stabling sidings? I found the carriage sidings and wondered if the locus were stabled there as well? 

Edited December 16, 2021 by MidlandRed

[BR traction instructor]

…look beneath the Cockshute yard area and you’ll see the signal controlling access to/egress from the carriage shed and sidings. The loco stabling roads aren’t shown, just the signals associated with them.

 

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[Arpster]

17 hours ago, Rivercider said:

I now wish I had saved the old office copies of the WR Freight Trains Marshalling booklets when I had the chance.

The services changed quite quickly at the end of the vacuum braked era, I remember by 1978/79 7M67 was a Exeter Riverside to Warrington service that conveyed nuclear traffic from Bridgwater,

 

cheers

 

cheers

 

They're fascinating, huh? I wonder what the comment "ER Steel Carriers - may be rough" means under the 8E05 Toton to Tees Yard service means!

[Sabato]

They're fascinating, huh? I wonder what the comment "ER Steel Carriers - may be rough" means under the 8E05 Toton to Tees Yard service means! - Rivercider.

 

 

Doesn't that mean the wagons won't have been martialled in destination order, and will require further attention at some point on the way?

[BR traction instructor]

Another upgrade to multiple aspect colour light signalling happened in the Preston area in 1972.

 

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[BR traction instructor]

[Rivercider]

4 hours ago, Sabato said:

They're fascinating, huh? I wonder what the comment "ER Steel Carriers - may be rough" means under the 8E05 Toton to Tees Yard service means! - Rivercider.

 

 

Doesn't that mean the wagons won't have been martialled in destination order, and will require further attention at some point on the way?

That is my understanding of traffic rough marshalled, - that service might convey steel carriers for Tees including Middlesborough Dock, Hartlepool, BSC Lackenby etc,  and perhaps Scunthorpe for forward distribution.

My time on BR (1977) started after TOPS had spread across the network, by then shunting (where a TOPS list was available) was carried out by shunting 'tags', whereby TOPS provided the routing instruction. On the Marshalling booklets I remember the instructions for each section would have been accompanied by a 'tag', but these are not shown in this booklet. Tees Yard would have been tag '150',

 

cheers

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by Rivercider
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