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The GREAT thing is that almost every TV / Radio / Internet report words it as a Controversial World Championship Final, and I think that will be written in ALL the F1 History books for many years to come.

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SO, My predictions for 2022.

 

A 4 way fight for the title between; Hamilton, Russell, Leclerc and Sainz.

 

Hotly contested by Gasley, Norris and Tsunoda and then Vestappen, Perez and Riccardo.

 

With Valtie and Albon leading the rest.

 

Final Championship.

1, Hamilton,

2, Russell,

3, Sainz,

4, Leclerc,

5, Norris,

6, Gasley, (then promoted back to RB / Perez swap)

7, Vestappen,

8, Perez,

9, Riccado, (then retire).

10, Tsunoda.

 

Vettel to Retire at end of the year.

 

Albon to Aston Martin for 2023.

 

Just some silly thoughts whilst I have my lunch.

 

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3 minutes ago, Two_sugars said:

Looking at that list makes me wonder what you had for lunch . . . . . .

 

you being a Bass player 'n ' all . . . . . .

 

John

Slimfast today, I have a Blood Test on Thursday so not had any Christmas Pudding yet, and just a few Mince Pies and bit of cake.

 

It must have been the Baleys from last night that did it.:dancer:

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6 hours ago, Andrew P said:

SO, My predictions for 2022.

 

A 4 way fight for the title between; Hamilton, Russell, Leclerc and Sainz.

 

Hotly contested by Gasley, Norris and Tsunoda and then Vestappen, Perez and Riccardo.

 

With Valtie and Albon leading the rest.

 

Final Championship.

1, Hamilton,

2, Russell,

3, Sainz,

4, Leclerc,

5, Norris,

6, Gasley, (then promoted back to RB / Perez swap)

7, Vestappen,

8, Perez,

9, Riccado, (then retire).

10, Tsunoda.

 

Vettel to Retire at end of the year.

 

Albon to Aston Martin for 2023.

 

Just some silly thoughts whilst I have my lunch.

 

Joking aside I don't think you are a million miles off, however I think Ferrari are a dark horse for 2022 and couldbe ahead of Merc; they have committed to developing their 2022 car early, they have 2 good drivers and they have been working hard on their Engine. I think Mclaren will stay 4 or 5th best team, potentially behind Alpine who I think will jump forward. I think Red bull will slip back as without Honda support they will get out developed and have been putting a load of effort into 2021.

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I wouldn't be shocked if both MB and RB were slightly off the front, after their battle last year.

 

Ferrari really should be good, they've been working on their car for a long time, and Leclerc is a championship calibre driver. Sainz is at least good enough to win a few races every year in a race winning car, and might also be up capable of the championship.

 

I really don't know where the rest of the mid field will shake out. Personally I'm hoping for a few Norris & Riccardo 1-2s, but not expecting it!

 

Haas might be off the back too. They say that they did no development on their 2021 car in favour of 2022, so if they've nothing to show for it then that'll be a huge disappointment.

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13 hours ago, 37114 said:

Joking aside I don't think you are a million miles off, however I think Ferrari are a dark horse for 2022 and couldbe ahead of Merc; they have committed to developing their 2022 car early, they have 2 good drivers and they have been working hard on their Engine. I think Mclaren will stay 4 or 5th best team, potentially behind Alpine who I think will jump forward. I think Red bull will slip back as without Honda support they will get out developed and have been putting a load of effort into 2021.

 

The line between RB & Honda seems a bit hazy. RB couldn't just start make their own engines without a lot of resources from an established manufacturer, so I expect a lot of ex-Honda staff to be employed (or contracted to) Red Bull. It could even be some sort of merger for their F1 engine division.

 

As for the rest:

RB have been known in the past for developing their car until the very end of the season & compromising the following year's one. They were in a tough battle until the end so haw much has their 2022 suffered because of this?

Binotto said way back in 2019 that they had taken a bad wrong turn with their current car's development & would focus then on the 2022 one. He was also absent from a few of the latter 2021 races to develop the 2022 car. They finally have 2 drivers who appear to be equals rather than a No1 & 2.

Mercedes did say early in 2021 that they would stop development to work on their 2022 car. It seemed this wasn't the case but, like Red Bull, how much did this compromise their 2022 car?

How far have all the others moved forward or back? Likewise for all the others.

 

The rules need a big upheaval but I doubt they will because they have never done so in the past.

The SC rules are unfair & have been for years. As much as I was pleased for him, Gasly only won in Monza in 2020 because his pit stops were out of sync & he was able to change tyres during a red flag period. Why are they even allowed to do this?
In Imola 2021, Hamilton was allowed to unlap himself after an SC then passed plenty of others who he should never even have been close to.
Then in Abu Dhabi we saw the most outrageous SC procedure ever. I agree that it would be an anti-climax to have the championship finish behind the SC, but making up a new procedure during the race is not an answer. The rules need to be fixed.

 

Track limits were exposed several times: In Bahrain, drivers were told they could go wide on the exit of turn 4 (which I have never agreed with). Then after some radio calls, this was changed during the race.

There was lots of pushing each other off track with each incident 'judged' by the stewards with little guidance. It is no wonder drivers feel aggrieved when they get punished.

Norris pushed Perez wide in Austria & got penalised.

Hamilton pushed Perez into the pit lane in Turkey & gets nothing.

Verstappen does it to just about everyone everywhere & gets nothing.

Hamilton gives up places several times to Verstappen & this seems to be ok, but when Verstappen refuses to give space in Silverstone & gets shoved into a wall, the driver on the inside is judged to be at fault.

Verstappen pushes Hamilton off in Brazil & fails to remain on the track himself & gets nothing. He does exactly the same in Saudi & it was judged wrong there.

Verstappen out-brakes himself in turn 2 on lap 1 in Paul Ricard & losing his place to Hamilton is enough?

Verstappen 'gives up a place' to Hamilton in Saudi by driving in the middle of the track.

Leclerc causes a red flag in Monaco while Verstappen is on a flyer.

Hamilton was the only car to re-take his place on the grid for the re-start at Hungary. This was a complete disgrace because no discretion was necessary here: the rules stated that cars must take their place on the grid & they were not followed by the other drivers. Masi failed to know the rules, the stewards failed to know it. This was a time that Mercedes should have reported it to Masi but we didn't hear them do this so I guess they failed to know it too.

 

With the exception of Hungary, which was simply wrong, all of the above can be viewed differently depending on whose side you are on because the rules are simply not clear enough. If the rules were clearer, there would be more consistency. We would still get drivers complaining (Seb: "He turned in on me" when the reverse was true) but the complaints wouldn't drag on like they have done.

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7 hours ago, Zomboid said:

I wouldn't be shocked if both MB and RB were slightly off the front, after their battle last year.

 

Ferrari really should be good, they've been working on their car for a long time, and Leclerc is a championship calibre driver. Sainz is at least good enough to win a few races every year in a race winning car, and might also be up capable of the championship.

 

I really don't know where the rest of the mid field will shake out. Personally I'm hoping for a few Norris & Riccardo 1-2s, but not expecting it!

 

Haas might be off the back too. They say that they did no development on their 2021 car in favour of 2022, so if they've nothing to show for it then that'll be a huge disappointment.

MB did not spend any tokens in 2021 to upgrade there car so more time for the 2022 car

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21 hours ago, 37114 said:

 I think Red bull will slip back as without Honda support they will get out developed and have been putting a load of effort into 2021.

 

It appears that support will continue.

 

https://racingnews365.com/exclusive-honda-to-maintain-links-with-red-bull-until-the-end-of-2025

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3 hours ago, mozzer models said:

MB did not spend any tokens in 2021 to upgrade there car so more time for the 2022 car

All being equal I'd expect MB to have been able to work more on 2022 than RB, because they were still winning almost every week just about unopposed in 2020. But actually having a fight on their hands in 2021 will have taken resources which could otherwise have been used for 2022.

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