Haydino Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I'm looking to build a couple of the Ratio GWR 4 wheel coaches as a workers train based in South Wales in the early 1950s. Would they have still been painted in GWR brown by this time of nationalisation? Any references would be handy also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 By then, I don't think they had much paint left on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I looked this up a few years ago: FOUR WHEELED COACHES IN SOUTH WALES From Railway Observer The following 4-wheeled coaches were observed in South Wales during August 1951, either in use or held as spare coaches for workmen’s trains. Owing to the poor external condition of the coaches in question the numbers printed may not be entirely accurate. The two coaches at Caerphilly with the “W” prefix, on the other hand, were in excellent condition in BR red livery. Caerphilly: W285 W2774 [Third, S9, November 1895] 721 Burry Port: W180 2796 [Third, S17, January 1898] Neath: 945 [Brake Third, T47, June 1900] 4189 [Brake Third, T49, June 1894, was 2605] Four other coaches were in use on the Cymmer – Glyncorrwg branch in July 1951 and details of these and other 4-wheeled coaches on the Western Region would be welcomed. - March 1952 Further 4-wheeled workmen’s coaches in use or laid by in South Wales 1946-51:- Neath 4157 Bridgend 743 – now Swindon Glyncorrwg 2691 2692 2766 2775 Aberavon 322 [T17 Brake Third] 345 [S17 Third] 373 683 2728 [S17 Third] 2698 [T17 Brake Third] Treherbert 750 Dowlais CH 686 719 Barry 4184 Burry Port 195 238 303 341 734 2793 2794 2799 (later Glyncorrwg, now withdrawn) 2800 The low-numbered coaches are former firsts and seconds - April 1952 Cymmer Afan – Glyncorrwg – North Rhondda: The four-wheelers which had been a feature of this line for so long have now been replaced by three GW clerestories painted red. - December 1952 Apparently the only non-bogie coaches still officially in traffic for public passenger carrying on British Railways at the close of 1952 were four former Great Western four-wheelers engaged on services in South Wales. They comprised Thirds 180 and 2796 [S17, January 1898] on the BP&GV line and Brake Thirds 945 [T47, June 1900] and 4157 [T59, November 1894, was 2649] at Neath. They are not upholstered and are used for the transport of colliers and other workmen, being attached to public advertised trains for this purpose. - May 1953 Chris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydino Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 That's great help. Thanks Chris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEINEWYDD Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I am currently working my way through the Burry Port & G V R volume 2. Pages 288 & 289 have 3 photos of coaches in 1947, by H C Casserley and R C Riley, of 2 x 'S17' and one 'S 9' . All are in GWR chocolate with GW roundels, but S17 no W180 is repainted by BR, and ' is without any lettering'. These are not the only coaches imported by GW to Burry Port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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