BlackFivesMatter Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Whilst researching a YouTube of the late John Smith's Caledonian loft layout, he makes reference to a "Caley tobacco van". Many places had tobacco factories "once upon a less enlightened time". Did tobacco have special vans for it, or would any ventilated van be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 When the 'Air-Braked Network' was starting, in the mid-1970s, one of the core traffics was tobacco from Will's factory to Glasgow. Ordinary BR air-braked vans were used; the one concession to the nature of the traffic was the presence of 'Crown Locks', as the load was under Bond. A generation earlier, and there had been a regular flow from Player's at Nottingham to Neyland (why Neyland?); the vehicles used were Siphon Gs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted March 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2023 17 hours ago, Fat Controller said: A generation earlier, and there had been a regular flow from Player's at Nottingham to Neyland (why Neyland?); the vehicles used were Siphon Gs. Some time ago, there was discussion of a inter-war period photo of Nottingham Victoria from @Rail-Online's collection that included an ex-Great Central van fitted up for tobacco traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2023 In railway parlance 'tobacco' normally meant finished products (as indicated by the posts above)... Although presumably leaf tobacco might well have have been conveyed by rail to some of the factories especially those remote from docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dave John Posted March 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2023 There were three Caledonian D 39 6 wheel NPC Vans allocated to Stephen Mitchell ( No. 200-202) and one to F&J Smith for the carriage of tobacco. They carried the users name in large letters. Not sure , but I think they might have been thirled. There was considerable Tobacco traffic from Glasgow, usually in npcs. See "Caledonian Railway Wagons" by Mike Williams for further details. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Wills had a factory in Swindon that also had a rail connection. This Alamy pic shows a curious 0-4-0 industrial loco with the "W D & H O Wills" name on it. https://www.alamy.com/w-d-h-o-wills-cigarette-factory-swindon-wiltshire-image256556355.html and 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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