f#m Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Howdy fellows Could use some help with this: This is the second one of these I've had the first was age for christmas years ago, it didn't go all that well in order to not make this one another pile of scrap brass could someone point me in the direction of a good soldering iron for not to much money(about ??50 tops) along with the right solder for the job, the correct wheels and any pictures of 07001 in HNRC livery would also be a great help. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 6, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2009 Could use some help with this: These Craftsman kits go together very well but you have to be very careful with the body assembly in one respect. From memory the cab and casings are tabbed into the footplate assembly, there is a tendency for the footplate to curve while doing this, keep checking that the footplate is flat and straight at every step and shorten some of the tabs if necessary. I've built two of these with complete success but most of the others I have seen are nowhere near straight. Michael Edge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Its a good kit. Can you remember what the problems were with the previous attempt? Were they soldering technique in general? or were they the vague instructions (actually they are not that bad - but for a starter in the dark they are a bit presumptive)? I'd agree with PMP with choice of iron and solder. Take it slow - don't rush it. Put up photos of progress and ask questions. As always there are excellent detail photos in the Shunter bible (The Diesel Shunter by Colin J Marsden (OPC/Ian Allen) ISBN 0 86093 579 5 p143-149) including one of D2985 (07001) in b/w but there is a colour photo on the back dust sheet cover of D2991. There should be quite a lot of photos out there as several ended up in preservation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Thanks for the wee shopping list PMP think having spent last night taking a good look at it all some of the components will get replaced the handrail knobs for one. The problem with the last one was mostly the rubbish solder and iron and never having tried building anything in brass before, bit of a leap from parkside wagons and ian kirk gresleys. http://www.railwaysc...php?imgref=7243 this is how it should turn out with any luck, anyone got any insite on what the extra box added to the side is for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 this is how it should turn out with any luck, anyone got any insight on what the extra box added to the side is for? That "box" was not on all of the originals - in fact only a few - D2993 was an example. It was only on those that were dual brake fitted and high level air pipes to haul SR EMU and TC stock. So a wild guess is that it may have something to do with that - but very wild! With all being delivered to Southampton docks and used only there until closure and transfer to Eastleigh Works their use in prototypical BR layouts is somewhat limited. But a lovely sight shunting wagons on any dock layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin 60 Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 Good luck with this, i'll be watching with interest as I too have one of these kits to build. John Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Got a lend of a soldering iron and solder off a family member who builds models aswell so axlebushes are in and the frames together ready for the wheels so its all going back in the box till next week and in the mean time i shall crack on with detailing and butchering a Dapol large prairie to fit a Bachmann 43xx 2-6-0 chassis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle1 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Try this for a pic in HNRC colours http://micktick.fotopic.net/p61158828.html Plenty of others if you search on fotopic for the recent type 5 diesel gala Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lswrm7 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Hi never built the craftsman 07. But i have made the silver fox 07 its very easy and makes a nice model. Its a resin body that sits on a Bachmann 04 chassis. Regards kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Gibson wheels G4842E will be pretty close, no one makes specific wheels for the kit. A good motor gearbox combination is the High-Level Loadhauler gearbox with Mashima 1420 motor. Soldering Iron an Antex 25W or similar will do all you need, and 145 degree solder. And some decent flux. The amount of pain and swearing caused by trying to use rosin flux solder designed for generic work is not to be underestimated. A proper flux for brass work is a very good investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 will do that with the tooth brush, still waiting for wheels so nothing mores happened very nice lswrm7 are them resin bodies easy to work with? considering getting some the hunslet dock shunter and the metrovik co-bo caught my eye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 The biggest problem I struck with my Craftsman 07 was getting the half-etched cab overlays to stay put. I eventually solved that by taking the cab assembly over to DougN's place and getting him to use his resistance soldering kit! The other area I had a little difficulty with was the running board valances. Mine came out a little uneven, and rather than resoldering, I used a plasticard overlay on the most recessed bits and some Milliput to even things out. Looking at it from underneath one can see how rough my work is but from the side and top it is now well disguised. ? Edited to fix typing errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 The biggest problem I struck with my Craftsman 07 was getting the half-etched cab overlays to stay put. clips and heat resistant fingers but an RSU helps Looking at ot from underneath one can see how rough my work is But who looks at it from underneath? It is a bit like worrying that there really isn't fuel in the fuel tank or real water in the radiator - if it can be seen it is not worth the candle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 got a cunning plan to use clothes pegs and rubber bands for that since i have no clips, however the gearbox and motor have arrived but no wheels sets yet :/ heres a wee something some freelance fun, like to do these as doodles pretty much so not the most accurate drawing ever normaly give up or put them away half finished and forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 The wheels showed up today. whats the best way to get them quartered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 The wheels showed up today. whats the best way to get them quartered? GW Models Wheelpress - no contest! They advertise in MRJ and it's well worth the investment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 The wheels showed up today. whats the best way to get them quartered? I have always done it by eye - it takes a lot for it to actually stop the wheels working. Even by eye they are probably at most +/- 2' out of 90 - it is far more important that all wheels on the same side are working in unison on the crank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 heres a wee something some freelance fun, like to do these as doodles pretty much so not the most accurate drawing ever normaly give up or put them away half finished and forget. That freelance design has a wee bit of the Campbelltown and Machrihanish about it. Nice! James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Will do them by eye then, dont really have the money to buy anything special for it if i want to eat for the rest of the month. pictures tomorrow if it all goes together like a good little engine. What looks Campbelltown and Machrihanish-ish about it? heres another normal gauge this time done in 7mm, the valve gear for going forward only and a single cylinder. appauling webcam quility picture, in need of a new scanner/ printer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard of the Moor Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 What looks Campbelltown and Machrihanish-ish about it? Having seen a picture of the C&M Argyll in Ian Rathbone's book on Painting and Lining, the tight six-coupled wheels with the carrying wheels way back under the cab caught my eye. It's not a good side on view, but you can kind of see what I mean here. Cheers, James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Having seen a picture of the C&M Argyll in Ian Rathbone's book on Painting and Lining, the tight six-coupled wheels with the carrying wheels way back under the cab caught my eye. It's not a good side on view, but you can kind of see what I mean here. Cheers, James see what you mean. will start up a new thread for drawings somewhere if anyone wants to see them all got a folder full of them. will do them to order to if anyone wants to build a fictional loco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 only brakes pickups coupling rodes and sandboxes to go before the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted December 1, 2009 Author Share Posted December 1, 2009 broke it nicely by stepping on the chassis after it fell off the edge of my desk and i failed to notice. stupid stupid thing to do however it can be saved by making new frames all the detail etches and the body were still to be fitted or assembled. and now some fun! what would you call this... thing. this ones an unpowered dummy one there will be a powered one to followe to operate as a pair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcazar Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 How about an 04/2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
f#m Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 04 times two 08? no it has bogies, hand rails and other details now painting soon, 07's body is coming together nicely and i have been messing with CAD. pot of gold to anyone who guesses what this is from just whats there. bit more. bits are appearing faster now i've got the hang of this again, most enjoyable . It's one of the Alexandra Docks Barclay 0-6-2's as modified by the GWR, Ian beattie did an artical on them in the September '92 Railway Modeller I'm going to get a kit made up of this eventually, this drawing though is just to get the hang of it again. any help with any of this is much appriciated, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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