markyb208 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Hi All, Has anyone built this kit and if so whose wheels did you use? The instructions say 5'7" 16 spoke for the drivers, which as a Stanier loco, I believe the wheel rims should be bevelled. The closest I can find at present is the Gibson 5'7" 16 spoke for the GER/LNER G4 class, which has a plain rim. I guess in the grand scheme of things, plain rims are better than nothing and the correct trailing bogie wheels are not a problem. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Regards, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted November 11, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2009 Hi Mark, I built this kit a few years ago using 20mm romfords, which i appreciate are not correct. I hope you have more luck with the kit than me. I messed it up by not fitting the cab doors before wrapping the sides and found getting cab detail in very difficult. In fact it was so bad it ended up getting rebuilt a couple of years later. Certainly were i doing another Gibson wheels would be the choice It would be interesting to see how you get on with the build. Kind regards Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustytrev Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hello Mark, I believe the wheels are 5'7" 17 spoke with bevel rims and crank-pin between spokes.I've had mine for some years and still haven't got round to building it. Being unable to find the correct wheels for it and the inaccuracies of the cab/side etches have been the main deterrent. The cab side openings are a mile out and the beading on the etches is a problem. It is a pity really, as it would go well with my two non corridor suburban coaches. I found the lack of instructions to build it another obstacle. I keep looking at the pictures of the prototype and the Ian Beattie drawing in the Railway Modeller, but keep shying away from making a start. I have also hesitated thus far because adhesion and balance problems are an issue apparently with this wheel arrangement. Having looked in the box again I can feel that motivation coming on. Does anyone have instructions to build an 0-4-4T chassis from another kit they would be willing to provide please. It would enable progress to be made as I don't think reasonable running could be achieved without some guidance/comparison. I have thought about removing the beading round the cab/side etches and replacing it with some appropriate metal strip. The cab opening needs rectifying too. trustytrev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustytrev Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hello, It seems that driving wheels @ 5'6" are available from Alan Gibson's for a Stanier 2-6-4 tank. They look the nearest available in relation to spoke number,bevel rims and crank pin location between spokes. 4866ST 5??™ 6" 22.0mm. 17 spoke Stanier 2-6-4 Tank Bevel PB 13" 4.30mm. I suppose 1" in 4mm scale could be within wear parameters for a 5'7" rim. trustytrev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFFTHE RAILS Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I find it amusing that these are sometimes referred to as "Stanier" engines - they have nothing at all to do with Stanier. They are part of the last vestiges of the Fowler/Anderson period of the LMS and were probably ordered when Lemon was the CME in 1931. Even Haresnape's "Stanier Locomotives" book doesn't include them as one of the great mans's loco types. The Robinson "Director" 4-4-0s with shorther chimnneys, domes and cabs and ordered by Gresley weren't credited to Gresley! I have my tin hat ready. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustytrev Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I find it amusing that these are sometimes referred to as "Stanier" engines - they have nothing at all to do with Stanier. They are part of the last vestiges of the Fowler/Anderson period of the LMS and were probably ordered when Lemon was the CME in 1931. Even Haresnape's "Stanier Locomotives" book doesn't include them as one of the great mans's loco types. The Robinson "Director" 4-4-0s with shorther chimnneys, domes and cabs and ordered by Gresley weren't credited to Gresley! I have my tin hat ready. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustytrev Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I find it amusing that these are sometimes referred to as "Stanier" engines - they have nothing at all to do with Stanier. They are part of the last vestiges of the Fowler/Anderson period of the LMS and were probably ordered when Lemon was the CME in 1931. Even Haresnape's "Stanier Locomotives" book doesn't include them as one of the great mans's loco types. The Robinson "Director" 4-4-0s with shorther chimnneys, domes and cabs and ordered by Gresley weren't credited to Gresley! I have my tin hat ready. Ian Hello, As I understand they are referred to as Stanier locomotives because although being ordered under Lemon they actually entered service during Staniers tenure. Was it not also the case that a number of changes were made to normal Midland practices resulting in improvements due to Stanier's intervention.Bevelled drivers being one of them? trustytrev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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