Is this where we can put wish lists?

[JZ]

Before I kick off, I would like to say That I am well aware that the loco's of the former LNER routes are thinnest on the ground although the big express engines are well covered with the A1, A3, A4, V2 as well as Britannia and Deltic plus other BR standards. But this is not my field of interest. This lays in the South of the country, so Southern, a bit of GW and LMS thrown in. And I won't be wishing for the more obscure types either, as I realise that these will most probably only ever be available as kits, the S&DJR 7F for example. So lets us please be sensible here and only go for larger classes that, maybe, should be produced in the future. And some reason as to why. And, by the way, please, please do not mention the Blue Pullman .

 

So here we go with mine.

 

GWR

42XX. 91 in service until the late '50s plus another 60 of the 5205 class and possibly could be adapted to the 72XX, another 54. Ok, a few variations within the classes, but look what Hornby did with the Black 5. Say ??60-75

 

94XX. Hawksworth Pannier tank. This could add some variety to GW/WR layouts, and with 210 in service, perhaps one of the largest classes not covered. ??40-50

 

Southern

H15 or S15. Don't know if the market could take both of these and we have had quite a few Southern designs recently. ??85-100

 

O2. A perfect companion for the M7 for buildind a SR BLT. If this came out perhaps we would see a few more IoW layouts. ??50-60

 

Q. Ok, this has been produced before and despite it's popularity in previous lists, only 20 were built. Perhaps a candidate to go on a revised and upgraded 4F chassis ??50-65

 

700. 30 of these and a bit of variety to Southern goods. ??50-65

 

C class 0-6-0. Wainwright SECR tank. 106 lasted into BR and the last few until 1962. ??45-50

 

U class. Perhaps a bit too similar to the N to be produced. ??70-85

 

C2X. Like the 700, more variety. ??50-65

 

E4. 70 in 1947 and the last going in 1962. ??50-65

 

I will leave the LMS and LNER types to those more knowledgable on the subject. But for my part I would like to see....

5MT Stanier 2-6-0 ??65-80

 

Fowler 7F 0-8-0 (Austin 7 ) ??75-85

 

But, I am afraid to say, I think the LMS Garrett is a non-starter, mainly due to the fact that very, very few of us would have room to run the sort of train length it could haul or a depot large enough to house it.

 

Anyway, these are my thoughts on the subject. Any comments are welcome plus your own lists and let's have a reason for including it, not just because I want one. So, please let's not get ridiculous and hysterical like as has happened in some of the old lists. If it does I will have it deleted.

 

edited to put some sort of price range against them as PeterL suggested. These are the prices I would expect to pay. But RRP would probably be a bit higher.

[bennyboy]

Well at the rational part of my wish list would be...

 

A Class 117 DMU in both 00 & N. With a bit of clever design it could also be used to make a Class 116 and possibly a few other DMUs.

 

A Super GUV and a PCV in N scale as without them the Dapol Class 67 doesn't have much to pull (A bit like the real thing!).

 

And one that comes under "because me and my mate want one".....

 

Any N scale Scrap wagon be it a "Black Adder", SSA or even a POA! A scrap yard is one of the most popular lineside industries for modern modellers so I'm sure that a few other people would want to buy some of them.

[coachmann]

Andy Y can now rest easy in the firm knowledge that things are back to normal now that 'Wish Lists' are surfacing again....

[peterl]

The list would be really useful if the posters would say how much they are prepared to pay for those items they so desire! ? Otherwise I have a feeling the manufacturers will just ignore them!

 

So come on fellow modellers a slight case of "money where your mouth is" I think!

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

[ajdown]

Any N scale Scrap wagon be it a "Black Adder", SSA or even a POA! A scrap yard is one of the most popular lineside industries for modern modellers so I'm sure that a few other people would want to buy some of them.

 

Ian Stoate Models lists the Blackadder and the POA, but only the Blackadder currently available http://www.ismodels.co.uk/ under "Freight Kits". I believe the blue colour they were painted in is "Barclay Blue" (P229 from Phoenix Precision Paints).

 

I'd drop him a note - there's a "contact us" page.

 

I have some with bits of an old pan scourer as content!

 

I'd put my vote in for "more multiple units" as well, both diesel and electric.

[Guest dilbert]

Hello (anagram) - it's nearly that time of year again...aaarrrrggggghhhhhh...dilbert

[JZ]

The list would be really useful if the posters would say how much they are prepared to pay for those items they so desire! Otherwise I have a feeling the manufacturers will just ignore them!

 

So come on fellow modellers a slight case of "money where your mouth is" I think!

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

 

A good point Peter. I did say that this should be a sensible wish list and not some flight of fancy. Although I would have put a Clan as fanciful, but then the chassis and tender were already in place.

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

I feel there are some very sensible 'everyday' items of rolling stock that would be worth thinking about: the vehicles which many even quite modest layouts need in some number. Topping my list from a BR steam perspective:

 

LNER standard 12T van

 

LNER / BR Steel high sided open family.

 

LMS / BR corrugated steel end high sided open family.

 

LNER / LMS / BR 15 foot w/b twin bolster and plate wagon families (the number of 37s that sell, there must be at least 1% of the owners would perhaps consider a steelworks products train behind them... Busy backdating Bach's BDAs to bogie bolster D to fill that gap in my wagon stock.)

 

Price 'the going rate' for wagons to the standard of Hornby's Shark or Bachmann's 16T minerals. I would be after quite a number of each to supplement my existing kitbuilds.

[Mod2]

Gents, in line with our shiny new 'MMM' protocols, Julian's topic has passed moderation as we believe it's well-intentioned and thoughtful. Unfortunately though, once the OP is through, the system doesn't allow us to filter out individual postings, other than retrospectively.

 

So, please let's not get ridiculous and hysterical like as has happened in some of the old lists. If it does I will have it deleted.

 

Now already, I can see two or three posts which, whilst not in the classic wishlist territory that we all love to hate, are not really in line with Julian's reasonable request. In fact, one is quite disrespectful to it and has just been removed from public view. So can we try a bit harder to keep things positive please?

 

Thanks.

[coachmann]

Entering into the spirit of pre-Christmas and on on the basis that 'Wish Lists are OK threads' now, I concur with the OP about a Fowler 7F 0-8-0 (Austin 7) ??76.00

 

Also on a purely personal basis....

Ex. LYR 'A' Class 0-6-0 Tender loco.....??65.00

LMS Caprotti Black Five (low running plate) ...??90.00

 

LG.

[jamieb]

First post on the new forum, never expected it to be a Wish List but here goes!

 

GWR 42XX really needs to happen as its a major gap in the market, same for a SR Black Motor.Would pay ??70 - ??80 per loco.However given the countries parlous financial state , maybe 2010 could be the year of Hornby Railroad and a Bachmann equivalent.Less detailed but cheaper .As long as they run well , people can add detail to their own requirements and maybe give a boost to the smaller detail parts suppliers.Also a 4mm wagon turntable would be nice.

Jamie

[Ian J.]

Hmm. Wish lists. Like advertising for Christmas, I think they should be restricted to December only. But, now that I'm posting...

 

S&DJR 7F tops my list at the moment. Would pay about ??80-90 for a good one. It would help if the design could incorporate adaptions to the two/three principal versions (small boiler, large boiler, reboilered with saddle packing). Contrary to the OP's feelings, I don't believe this loco is sufficiently obscure that it couldn't be done RTR as it is very well known outside of S&DJR circles, let alone within them.

[coachmann]

Contrary to the OP's feelings, I don't believe this loco is sufficiently obscure that it couldn't be done RTR as it is very well known outside of S&DJR circles, let alone within them.

At one tmeI would have dissagreed with this, afterall even if one modelled the LMS you would hardly find a S&DJR 2-8-0 at Huddersfield, Crewe, Euston, Carlisle, or Holyhead. But after seeing what the RTR manufacturers have been prepared to produce during 2009 (One-off prototype diesels and short-life North British diesels), it seems anything with a wow factor is fair game. The popularity of the S&DJR 7F 2-8-0 crosses all boundaries......I foresee people Swindonizing them!

[Allegheny1600]

I tend to agree with Ian J. on this - if an S&DJR 7F were ever made, it would sell pretty well indeed - just think of the livery variants!

S&DJR black, LMS black, BR early, BR late & Preservation S&DJR blue (lovely! - yes please!).

However, i could see this being priced above the Bachmann G2 - there's more of it and it'll be more recent!

 

I personally would like to see a re-run of Hornbys "year of the loco" where they bring out say, a typical 0-6-0 tender engine from each of the big four, pricing would probably be around the ??60-70 mark. MR/LMS/BR 3F, SR 700, GNR/LNER/BR J6 (sorry, J15!), GWR (i don't know!). As my interests are so varied, i'd probably have one of each, bank a/c permitting.

 

Finally, a plea for some quality Western region coaches to the standard of Hornby's Maunsells at the same sort of price.

Cheers,

John E.

[Oldddudders]

I tend to agree with Ian J. on this - if an S&DJR 7F were ever made, it would sell pretty well indeed - just think of the livery variants!

S&DJR black, LMS black, BR early, BR late & Preservation S&DJR blue (lovely! - yes please!).

However, i could see this being priced above the Bachmann G2 - there's more of it and it'll be more recent!

 

I personally would like to see a re-run of Hornbys "year of the loco" where they bring out say, a typical 0-6-0 tender engine from each of the big four, pricing would probably be around the ??60-70 mark. MR/LMS/BR 3F, SR 700, GNR/LNER/BR J6 (sorry, J15!), GWR (i don't know!). As my interests are so varied, i'd probably have one of each, bank a/c permitting.

I never travelled any part of the S&D, but it does seeem to hold a precious place in the heart of many UK modellers, so I'm inclined to agree this one might sell very well if priced acordingly. Also, do I not recall that a 7F sat in the old Kentish Town loco shed for some years - miles from home?

 

The issue of cheaper locos with fewer detail parts added is interesting. Enables more mum-and-dad purchases for the kids, while allowing the half-competent modeller to enhance the loco to his/her tastes. The "generic 0-6-0" is also bang-on for cost/benefit to us all, and yes, a LSWR 700-class Black Motor or LBSC C2x Vulcan would go down very well here.

[ChrisB]

A fairly modest one this.

 

A "Proper" class 73. That means with metal chassis, drive to both bogies and a flywheel motor. I'm not worried about working fans, adjustable louvres or opening cab doors. I would be quite happy to pay the current going rate for a diesel locomotive from any of the mainstream manufacturers.

 

Of course, a 74 would be nice but maybe not enough of a market.

 

On the rolling stock front, an RTR Polybulk.....have converted a Roco one with paint, Fox transfers etc but it's not the same vehicle. A turbot would be nice too and it would be great if Hornby could get their Sea Urchin/Sea Horse on the shelves.

 

One other thing, and this may have been discussed before, a 4ft radius point from Peco in OO. Both code 75 and 100. I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds they'd like something a little smoother than the 3ft radius "Medium" but doesn't really have room for the "Large" radius.

[Piemanlarger]

Being an EWS modeller, RTR things are pretty good it has to be said, as such, not sure how much i really need for 2010!

 

However, always nice to see new numbers on locos, cant say i really need anything though?

 

New freight rolling stock. Well, Dapol bachman and Hornby have all served the Ews era well over the last few years.

 

Would like to see the flangeway inspection sallon , for which I would pay ??50-60

 

Likewise, any sort of unusall departmental stock, something like the structure gauging wagon build (i think) by mick bryan recently. I would pay a premium for such items (??20-25 for the structure wagon) as usually we are only going to buy a small amount, as with the inspection sallon.

 

 

Would like an updated (Bachmann)model of the Murco 100 tanker as te Hornby one looks its age these days ??18.

??15 if buying more than 10, need 23!

 

Buildings are always welcome, scaledale or scencraft the last couple of years has been the range i have most looked forward too.

Carridge storage shed seems to be missing rtr, perhaps a modular one so modellers could buy as many as is needed and add on to make the size of shed as needed. ??10 a carridsge length?

 

Despite ordering a superb Ph mobile phone mast this week, i think a rtr version from either bachman or Hornby at ??8 would sell. these things are very common along todays railways.

 

 

 

Of course, for me all i really want is updated versions of sound projects.??90

[37079]

I think steam era rolling stock is an area where there are still large gaps. For coaches LNER and GWR non-corridor stock is maybe one of the biggest omissions and the beauty of these is that if sensible diagrams are chosen almost all layouts in the relevant area/era can use them (unlike some of the express coaches which are not really suitable for branch lines). Pricing around the Hornby Maunsells would be ideal.

 

For wagons, I would agree with the LNER van and steel open. Basing these on a 10ft wb 8-shoe vac-braked steel underframe would be best, as it can be used under a wide variety of bodies which could keep the cost of future new models down (for example, ventilated and unventilated planked vans planked with corrugated ends, all-planked wartime version, plywood van, 2 versions of fruit van, banana van, etc). It's not been done in RTR before and it also avoids those pesky tie-bars the RTR manufacturers seem to struggle with! I would expect pricing to be in line with the Bachmann BR vans.

 

To RTR steam era wagons I would also add the standard SR pill-box brake van, perhaps pricing in line with the Hornby Shark?

[Steven B]

Well at the rational part of my wish list would be...

 

A Class 117 DMU in both 00 & N. With a bit of clever design it could also be used to make a Class 116 and possibly a few other DMUs.

 

A Super GUV and a PCV in N scale as without them the Dapol Class 67 doesn't have much to pull (A bit like the real thing!).

 

And one that comes under "because me and my mate want one".....

 

Any N scale Scrap wagon be it a "Black Adder", SSA or even a POA! A scrap yard is one of the most popular lineside industries for modern modellers so I'm sure that a few other people would want to buy some of them.

 

A bit of modelling work gets you all of these:

 

Worsley Works should be able to help you with a 117.

 

Super GUV is/was available from Ian Stoate and both the Super GUV and PCV are available from Hurst Models as etched sides for Farish coaches. SuperBGs are available from Farish if you want something RTR.

 

Scrap wagons either from Ian Stoate Models as mentioned, the now defunct Chivers N Gauge kit or scratch build (basic box with microstrip for the outer framework).

 

 

Happy modelling,

 

Steven B.

[Phatbob]

The thing is, I really do want a Blue Pullman!

 

The obvious gap in the market in 00 is an SR standard 20t brakevan.

Coaches: can Hornby please make a Gresley BG and a Stannier composite to augment their existing range?

Would anybody care to launch a range of Hawkesworths?

Locos: nothing new required for me, but I would like to see the Bachmann Mickey Mouse tank upgraded to the standard of their tender version, along with a BR std version to acompany the Ivatt variety. That would bring my wallet out of hibernation!

[JZ]

Hmm. Wish lists. Like advertising for Christmas, I think they should be restricted to December only. But, now that I'm posting...

 

S&DJR 7F tops my list at the moment. Would pay about ??80-90 for a good one. It would help if the design could incorporate adaptions to the two/three principal versions (small boiler, large boiler, reboilered with saddle packing). Contrary to the OP's feelings, I don't believe this loco is sufficiently obscure that it couldn't be done RTR as it is very well known outside of S&DJR circles, let alone within them.

 

Don't get me wrong Ian, I too would love an RTR S&DJR 7F. I live within 200m of Radstock Station and my layout is set not too far from Templecombe. But I do believe that after initial good sales, the interest would drop off dramatically. This is something that manufacturers must take into account.

 

Anyway, some interesting things mentioned and only a tongue in cheek reference to **** ******* .

 

Wagon wise, I would just like to see a bit more variety, but saying that, Parkside does fill quite a few gaps.

 

Coaches. Hawkworth's have been mentioned on almost every wish list recently, But it would be nice if Bachmann could update their Thompson and Bulleid stock and maybe the Stanier coaches too. And I would like to see some Stanier 'porthole' stock. On the Western front, I imagine the pre-nationalisation boys would like some more choice there.

 

One building I think someone should do is a post-war prefab. There were tens of thousands put up after the war and all over the country. Some still stand today. Great in resin or for someone like Wills/Ratio.

[Pennine MC]

Coaches. Hawkworth's have been mentioned on almost every wish list recently,... On the Western front, I imagine the pre-nationalisation boys would like some more choice there.

 

Hawksworths have been wishlist favourites since the term was invented, I think. The downside, as it's been quoted before, is that the majority were actually post-48 build and thus cant be done in GW livery. Nevertheless I think it's a case of when rather than if, but I doubt they'll come from Hornby

 

And I would like to see some Stanier 'porthole' stock.

 

So would I, but to the casual observer they're just too similar to older Staniers

 

One building I think someone should do is a post-war prefab. There were tens of thousands put up after the war and all over the country. Some still stand today. Great in resin or for someone like Wills/Ratio.

 

Ten Commandments have released one within the last year, although not especially cheap if you're building an estate

[Guest eddie reffin]

I think that rather than new models in N gauge, a number of current models could be upgraded to more modern standards. If you take some of the older Farish stuff, it would be good if they could DCC their chassis so that they have 6 pin sockets fitted- possibly even to make spares available. I realise that this would be at the higher end of the price range but I personally would pay ??40 ish for a DCC friendly chassis. Another feature that could be included would be Microtrains type couplings. Slightly more difficult to justify for the Manufacturer but the old rapido has had its day.

 

As for rolling stock, there would probably be a market for Bachmann to scale down more of their range to N. RTR Autoballasters, MTA to name a couple- I know that the NGS have a kit for the JJA but my building skills aren't up to it!

 

There is also a number of gaps in the livery range. My own preference would be to see more Scottish DMU liveries.

150 - Scotrail whoosh;

156 Whoosh, FSR, new "SpotRail"

158 FSR

170 SPT, SpotRail, Whoosh

A lot of people will say that these may be of limited appeal but is that not what the manufacturers do now?

 

It is a lot easier for Dapol when it comes to this as most of their range is newer and has not been inherited. I am not knocking Farish as I do think their newer stuff is excellent. Lets hope the rest of the range cn be brought up to the same standard.

 

 

So what would I buy?

 

Upgraded: 158 DMU, Mk3 sleeper, Mk2 aircons ( Scotrail types), 101 (possibly due?)

 

New: Class 70- fairly obvious - ??100 if up to latest spec

: Class 104 DMU- same price range as 108

: Mk2 a/b/c - ??18-20?

 

 

Cheers

Eddie

[JZ]

Prefab

 

Ten Commandments have released one within the last year, although not especially cheap if you're building an estate

 

I don't suppose a resin or a plastic kit would be much cheaper though.

[JohnH]

 

On the rolling stock front, an RTR Polybulk.....

 

Here, here! I'm really surprised no-one's done it so far. Wide range of liveries, traffic flows and a fairly long timespan - still in use today. Go on Dapol/Hornby/Bachmann - you know it makes sense... (maybe Kernow could do a special comission!)