Is this where we can put wish lists?

[D9020 Nimbus]

I'd like to see a class 120 DMU. It was used in quite a number of regions from the West Country to Scotland; and interestingly, in the MREMag poll last year it scored fairly highly both for OO and N gauge. One for Bachmann, perhaps?

 

For N gauge, I'd like Dapol to add a 27 to their planned 26.

[Mallard60022]

On the old site I got loads of flack and accusations of being financially ignorant for a similar suggestion, however if I were to wish it would be for the Big 2 plus others to make some parts far more readily available. For example loco bodies, tenders, coaches & wagons unpainted/unnumbered (or as Heljan, painted but unnumbered & as Dapol once did, wagons in plain grey) and maybe without wheels? Prices should reflect the effort required to provide this parts service. I know Bachmann already do some chassis but I don't know how useful they are for other things? Perhaps I am missing something and this is already happening?

I'm not suggesting that something superb like a Hornby A4 or a Bachmann A1 body should be available willy nilly (although perhaps a limited, one off batch allowing folks to create another loco/ swap the tender etc. without having to pay for a complete loco), but maybe something that has had it's run and may not sell many more like the 8F/9F. Some people might not be able to afford (say) 4 A4s but may like to have 3 extra bodies so that they swap and run a different loco for fun. Hornby then get the cost of three 'parts' that they would not have got otherwise. There are also some modellers that may like to bash a ready made 'top' whilst using their kit/scratch built 'bottoms'?

I would also wish that DJH could develop a parts service as SE Finecast have done! I feel sure that 4mm loco kit orders can't be so overwhelming that they don't have some time to sort out some parts from the stores? Something like having their tenders for Pacifics available separately would be great for 'kit bashers' and in these days of falling trader income, may actually generate some pennies!

I await the incoming, but please remember this is my WISH list.

Sincerely, A.N.Y. Dreamwilldo

[owentherail]

Ok, to bump my post numbers up.... here goes. all 'oo'

1. Large logo 56 036 or 047 would be nice,

2. freigh grey 60 (so can put logo of choice on)

3. Mainline/i-city 47 as 627 would be nice

4. More westerns............... tho this does sound probable! :icon_thumbsup2:

5. railfreight grey 31, none of this red skirt stuff and headcode in right place.

As for wagons.......too many to list, just hope manufacturers stop doing same as each other. owen

[gwrman]

Hi, it would be good to see the RTR manufacturers move on to sound fitted DMU's and EMU's also a sound fitted 08 Shunter. Nigel

 

 

[Piemanlarger]

i predict a sound fitted 108 dmu from Bachmann in the 2010 story book.

i do not predict when it will be in the shops!

[leopardml2341]

I wish I could get off my a*** and build the Bl**dy layout to run some of your wishes on !

 

 

[wollastonblue]

I would like sound ready chassis, and a choice of bodies to suit, such as the Bachmann 66, 37 etc. For I can see the Hornby Civil 50 with sound ending up in the bargain sections, strange livery to choose for a sound loco IMO.

 

A brand new Class 117 DMU, would be most welcome, as would a LSWR 02 Tank or a SDJR 7f. But I suppose the biggest item that most people would want is realistic working semaphore signals.

[leopardml2341]

I wish I could get off my a*** and build the Bl**dy layout to run some of your wishes on !

 

 

 

 

Hey People - Might have found my motivation - just seen the 2010 challenge. Might 'av a crack at that.

[Invicta]

 

I know I am not the only RMwebber who repeatedly plumps for a 2 car LMS motor train rake - preferring the final P3 design.

 

You're certainly not- it's an issue that there seems to be an epic lack of joined-up thinking by both Bachmann and Hornby. Apart from Hornby's ex-AirfixGWR autocoach,even though I think Bachmann offered the Ivatt with push-pull fittings at one point, and Hornby have done the same with their M7, we still don't have a riving trailer to suit

[Mallard60022]

You're certainly not- it's an issue that there seems to be an epic lack of joined-up thinking by both Bachmann and Hornby. Apart from Hornby's ex-AirfixGWR autocoach,even though I think Bachmann offered the Ivatt with push-pull fittings at one point, and Hornby have done the same with their M7, we still don't have a riving trailer to suit

 

Can you remind me what the Driving Trailer would be that might go with the M7 for PP?

Thanks PR

[coachmann]

Can you remind me what the Driving Trailer would be that might go with the M7 for PP?

Push pull coaches varied from early LSWR stock coverted to push pull to Ironclad and Maunsell coaches converted to push pull. There were others of course converted from SE&CR and LBSC coaches. A typical LSWR push pull set is illustrated below (not of my manufacture).

 

Larry

[coachmann]

Caledonian said :

.......it does give Hornby a dilemma; either (1) they bring out a model which we know and they know is inaccurate, or (2) they correct it which will mean it won't fit in with all the existing stock. Either option is possible, but I suspect it'll be easier to simply duck the issue and do some GWR stuff instead.

I go along with this. Bachmann should see this possible dilemma as a chance to dive in and produce a range of very accurate Gresley coaches......... A sound investment in my opinion (1) because variations of LNER Pacifics outnumber the number of LNER coaches and, (2) because this is what people are crying out for after being tempted by Hornby and then let down with poor models. "Inaccurate" shouldn't happen in this day and age!

 

Larry

[The Fatadder]

Just thought of one other thing I would rather like to see in the new year.

 

I would very much like for an enterprising modelshop (possibly that well known commissioner of ltds from west of the Tamar) to commission a ltd of the Bachmann 150 in one of Wessex Trains picture liveries.

[Piemanlarger]

Just thought of one other thing I would rather like to see in the new year.

 

I would very much like for an enterprising modelshop (possibly that well known commissioner of ltds from west of the Tamar) to commission a ltd of the Bachmann 150 in one of Wessex Trains picture liveries.

 

 

Yes, i would go for one of those too,and i dont like dmu!.

[gwrman]

Yes, i would go for one of those too,and i dont like dmu!.

 

The owner of such model shop is a moderator on Your model railway.net why not suggest it to him their organising a show for september 2010.

[Mallard60022]

Push pull coaches varied from early LSWR stock coverted to push pull to Ironclad and Maunsell coaches converted to push pull. There were others of course converted from SE&CR and LBSC coaches. A typical LSWR push pull set is illustrated below (not of my manufacture).

Larry

 

Cheers L. I had some idea and think there are Kirk conversions available from Branchlines and a well known SR coach provider does some stuff. Perhaps the old gated stock could be reintroduced (even though it was not PP I believe?

Once again, great coaches in the pics (your build I'm sure).

PR

[coachmann]

(your build I'm sure).

No. Northstar Models.....I only took the photos.

 

BSL/Phoenix produce the push pull fitted Ironclad duo and Bullied Duo (aluminium kits).

 

 

[zarniwhoop]

Coming from South of the Thames, one of the things that dragged me back to 00 was the adverts for 4-CEPs "coming soon". Today, I've got my first - still running it in (just the motorcoach, then I'll have to get to grips with the couplings). Looks wonderful, but I think it (they, when the other colours arrive) will soon be lonely Yes, I know there are kits, and that Bachmann should be producing an EPB in due course (not particularly appropriate for me on the Sussex Coast, but I suppose I can hack a couple into BR-standard 2-HAPs when they appear), so what I'd really like to suggest is two things:

 

4-CIG or 4-VEP (I'm guessing the 4-VEP would probably sell more - wider range of liveries, apart from anything else), probably from Bachmann (fitting the motor in the driving trailer would perhaps simplify things - loss of some interior, but how many of us care ?), and lots of different livery variations for the future.

 

4-COR - Hornby know how to produce BR Maunsells (unfortuately, they can't re-use the tooling from the loco-hauled coaches) and could maybe use this to gain more presence on third-rail layouts.

 

At current prices, I'd pay ??150 per unit for either of these, and I'd want a few of them. Well, to be honest I'd pay more, but I can't covet enough to justify a production run on my own. OK, end of my wish list, I suppose I'll just have to get on with developing my kit-building skills, but at least one of the things promised has turned up!

 

??en

[SWT442]

I'd love to see a 442 produced, obviously! I'd pay about ??150 for one, going by how much a 221 costs.

A high spec 73, 67 & 59 would be nice. Going by the cost of a Class 60, ??90 would be alright for each one.

 

Andy.

[Foulounoux]

For me it would have to be ER EMU's

 

A 305 which I supposed could also be tooled for a 304 / AM4 3 car for 120 quid

 

And A 313/314/315 emu although there is a project for that ongoing I guess a 507 could also be made from that so plenty of liveries

again 100-120 quid

 

and for Outer Suburban a 310/312

 

And a decent Cl 101 DMU would be the icing on the cake

 

Colin

[Guest Phil]

For me it would have to be ER EMU's

 

A 305 which I supposed could also be tooled for a 304 / AM4 3 car for 120 quid

 

And A 313/314/315 emu although there is a project for that ongoing I guess a 507 could also be made from that so plenty of liveries

again 100-120 quid

 

and for Outer Suburban a 310/312

 

And a decent Cl 101 DMU would be the icing on the cake

 

Colin

 

 

 

Colin - I don't have a problem with any of the above apart from class 101.

 

You don't mention your chosen scale but I am guessing it is not 4mm. This is for the simple reason that I can "make do" with the Hornby nee Lima 101 if I were to see any of classes 100, 103, 104, 116.

[Neal Ball]

The interesting thing about recessions in the Uk is that they have usually led to an increase in spend on model railways - certainly in all the 'step backs' since the 1970.

 

This time round the recession situation is different - biting deeper and wider and bound to last longer. But thus far what I have heard suggests that the old pattern has re-emerged with hobby, especially model railway, spend rising as people go for simpler pleasures than expensive nights out or weekends away.

 

In theory I suppose the cut in VAT might have helped but as the saving has only been a shade over ??2 in every ??100 spent I suspect that has not had too much impact although every penny saved is always worthwhile.

 

I think too that the model railway market is also working a bit like the auction market at present with products perceived as 'high quality' (which tends to mean detail and realism more than anything else when thinking about the purchase) tempting people to spend. There is also the threat of price inflation for all the reasons Larry mentions above incentivising others to buy now because it's bound to cost more next year. And of course the value of the money in our pockets has declined at a rate unknown since the 1930s which also means 'spare' cash is better invested in goods than sitting in a bank losing value (well that's what I tell herself ).

 

What will happen next is anyones guess but I suspect the marketeers will have latched very firmly onto a couple of basic factors in the present market - if it's good and sensibly priced it is going to sell, and if I pick the right thing it can even create a new market or sustain an existing one.

 

So the latter might mean Hornby hitting a GWR trail next year (coaches, please, coaches) as they looked at advance orders for 'Castles' when deciding next year's new products back in August/September of this year. Bachmann have exploited the opening of new market areas with the G2 adventure and dmus while Heljan have found a niche, at the moment, in bringing out the 'missing' diesels and Dapol can just sit back and let someone else take the development risk in 4mm scale while devoting their own cash resources to 2mm.

 

Of all of this I find the Dapol situation potentially the most worrying. I think Bachmann and Hornby are big enough and broad enough based to continue to support product development in their own right. Presumably Heljan are making money when they get things right? But will the Dapol situation act as a signal to the others that they can shift the cost of development off their books onto someone in the supply chain, and will that ultimately stifle the appearance of new products because the model shops simply haven't got the financial resources of the big manufacturers?

 

My other concern is that if development money becomes tighter will the big manufacturers concentrate on models which require the simplest input. It must be a lot cheaper to go out and electronically scan something which exists and then get that data into CAD than it is to hunt down drawings and other information to model something which no longer exists - so start choosing from what's out ready there to scan if you want to encourage them!

 

 

I agree with Mike about the prospects of next years new releases, which I said in another forum (Have got to grips with the new look RMWeb now!). A few people disagreed, but we wait to see what will happen.

 

I suppose one possibility is that a model might be announced in the January catalogue with development being spread out across 18 months. That way the manufacturer will be able to gauge opinion etc.

 

Anyway, enough said, let's hope they spend their dosh! In which case I would like to see:

 

1. New Collet corridor coaches to go with the Castle: First, Third, Composite, Brake third, Brake compo, Restaurant

 

2. New Centenary stock again to go with the Castle: Brake Third; Third; Restaurant; Third dining; Brake Third; Brake compo

 

3. Misc coaching stock: Siphon G; Full Brake; Slip coach

 

4. GWR Railmotor - limited sphere of operation, but with the GWS one due to start service in 2010(?) that would tie in nicely and guarantee some sales. RRP @??60 - Is that realistic? Discounted on the web to say ??50 and I reckon it would sell.

 

5. New 48xx and choice of autocoaches.

 

6. Metro tank - huge variations, RRP@ ??75

 

7. Toplight stock; Third; Comp; Brake etc.

 

8. GWR Diesel railcar to modern standards, with the different designs produced. RRP @??75

 

I think that would keep any manufacturer very busy! Coaches with lights as standard please and an RRP @??25

 

Although I said in "Shape of things to come" that I wonder if Bachmann will bring out a King after it appears twice in the 2010 calender. I would much rather see more variety in the range of tank locos than another big Express loco. That said, a revised Saint would be good!

 

Certainly food for thought and not long now to see what is announced.

[JZ]

I said at the start to be sensible with this wish list and so far we have had a more balanced and thoughtful list than we have had before. With luck, one or more of the major manufacturers may just see this and take note for future projects.

 

And then someone goes and spoils it. Baby Deltics, 4 different types of railbus and Lion to boot. I ask you. What manufacturer would dream of making these

 

 

Seriously though. I hope these are a great success for Heljan. While I won't be getting a Baby Deltic, not my region and CK has no proof that they ran on the S&D(yet). I will certainly be getting an AC Cars railbus and possibly a Park Royal version. Not to keen on the looks of the Wickham, but the Waggon und Maschinenbau could be useful for towing a van.

[philip-griffiths]

Should I tempt fate and build the batch of LNWR Coal Tanks I have in kit form over the Christmas holidays? There does seem to be a correlation in many peoples' eyes between finishing a kit and an excellent rtr model appearing. Price for an rtr version? ??50, is that too low? I would certainly need to a few considering how many were used at Tredegar and Abergavenny. I'd like a good set of P4 wheels too for them (and the G2 too). The Alan Gibson are good but a pain to insert the crankpins correctly.

 

In terms of my interests nearer our current age my biggest wishes are for a Cl.116 (already mentioned as something which could be modelled with a 117), and at a similar price to the Cl.108 it would certainly sell. The other item would be too see the Cl.37/0 with skirts re-appear. I am reliably informed that Bachmann used the mould to create the skirtless Cl.37s of late. This is a pity as the skirted variety lasted from introduction to the 80s, they were dominant in South Wales and other places and a pre-tops version in BR-blue would be something I would look to purchase in bulk. The use of the this mould seemed to be rash to create more modern versions at the expense of any more of the classic original variety.

 

that said somewhere amongst my e-mail archives I have a message from a well respected modeller of BR-Blue (and a resident of RMWeb) explaining the problems with the Cl.37 nose and how to correct it. If I was going to do that then I wouldn't bother about the fact that they come skirtless at present. I admire that person's modelling skill, but I am not in that league so tend to stick to small changes.

 

(I know that skirtless is not the correct term for the bodywork extending down behind the buffers but it is Sunday evening, late and the brain is shutting down in preparation for tomorrow).

 

Interesting posting about recessions. My concern will be the continued existence for such a small market of at least one of the rtr suppliers. Maybe we will see a return to the cottage industries run by people in their spare time, juggling work and pleasure. We've certainly been reliant on them in the past as well as now and it could be that the pendulum will swing back towards them.

 

regards

 

Philip Griffiths

[coachmann]

Maybe we will see a return to the cottage industries run by people in their spare time, juggling work and pleasure. We've certainly been reliant on them in the past.......

I have long thought there is a smallish market for steam outline bodyline kits, whether they be whitemetal, etched or resin. For example a Midland Railway 3F to go on the Bachmann Jinty chassis.

 

Sadly there is nothing comparable with the simple 0-6-0 chassis that Triang used to produce. There would be if Hornby motorised its LMS 4F though.......Think of all those Eastern Region 0-6-0 Tender locos than might be possible as bodyline kits even if the 8' X 8' 6"wheelbase is a few millimeters out here and there.