RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 11, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2012 the first power door set is currently en route from donny to wembley as i type this....... note the wider dark grey band to denote that its a power door set Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2012 heres an updated video, taken on the 06:55 express service from moor st to marylebone, perfect conditions to record this morning, overcast with no rain so no sun glare! Did the run in 1 hour 31 minutes even after being slowed down through banbury because of a late running XC service, without that i would have done it in 1:28 i recon the video was filmed and edited completly on my iphone, i set the timelapse app running before i left birmingham with the phone in aeroplane mode so i dont touch it on the move, then edited it using the splice app enjoy...... I did enjoy, thanks Jim Are you going to keep recording your trips until you get a sub 90 minute run? Just a thought, is there any way you could add captions for the major stations, tunnels etc - it would add to the interest in my mind? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 11, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2012 The iphone video editing software only allows me to add titles between clips rather han over the top, its something i looked at doing but quite simply can't unfortunatly at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 11, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2012 the first power door set is currently en route from donny to wembley as i type this....... http://www.flickr.co...N02/7177766646/ note the wider dark grey band to denote that its a power door set Ah - so I hope they've managed to stop the doors leaking, especially with the return of wet & windy weather promised for next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 11, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2012 Ah - so I hope they've managed to stop the doors leaking, especially with the return of wet & windy weather promised for next week. lets hope so!! being as the coaches are in the public domain now i can post this picture... you can see how much work has gone into the new doors, not blindingly obvious when you first look but they no longer wrap round the end of the coach so the corner pillar is a totally new fabrication, also note new egress', cant rail light, door open buttons etc who's gonna be the first to model it i wonder, my money is on roundhouse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Simon Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Hi, Jim, does the yellow stripe just denote the 'buisness zone' or first class? They look very nice! Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 12, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2012 Business Zone is effectively first class. We have used it on a friday night and paid the upgrade (which I think was 20 quid). Jim - I am looking at my spare Dapol WSMR coaches with a view to modifying them but need to find the correct shades of paint before I do any modifications let alone the decals! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 13, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2012 Jim - I am looking at my spare Dapol WSMR coaches with a view to modifying them but need to find the correct shades of paint before I do any modifications let alone the decals! i can get the RAL paint codes for you but they are basically mercedes silver and renault grey (or vice versa!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 13, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 13, 2012 here are a few more pics of the power door set on wembley depot http://www.flickr.com/photos/36593372@N04/with/7183579534/ looking very smart indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Couple more pics from this morning The other thing of note is the coaches now have retention tanks on the toilets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Jim Are they actually being used in service yet or just stabled there for now? I wonder whether precision decals will do the decals including the blue bands either side of the grey. The doors are a different shape to the original so its not just a case of scoring a new door line at the ends but its doable in N scale as long as decals are available. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 That's a useful view of the door, Jim - hadn't realised before about the taper on the door from the body curve to the flat corner pillar, which explains the triangular window. Not an easy thing to model I'd say! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 That's a useful view of the door, Jim - hadn't realised before about the taper on the door from the body curve to the flat corner pillar, which explains the triangular window. Not an easy thing to model I'd say! And - so I've been told - not an easy thing to do on the full size vehicles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Jim Are they actually being used in service yet or just stabled there for now? Testing times for the next two weeks... (M-F) 5R00 SX 14/05/12 to 25/05/12 Wembley Lmd 1059 Wembley Stadium 1100-1101 Sudbury & Harrow Road 1104-1105 Sudbury Hill Harrow 1107-1109 Northolt Park 1111-1112 Northolt Park Jn 1114 South Ruislip 1115-1130 West Ruislip 1132 Denham 1135-1135 Denham Golf Club 1136-1138 Gerrards Cross 1140 Seer Green 1143-1145 Beaconsfield 1147-1147 High Wycombe 1152 Saunderton 1157-1158 Princes Risborough 1203-1210 Haddenham & Thame Parkway 1215-1217 Bicester North 1226 Aynho Jn 1232 Banbury 1236 Fenny Compton 1242 Leamington Spa 1258 Warwick 1301-1302 Hatton 1307-1309 Dorridge 1315 Bentley Heath Crossing 1316 Widney Manor 1318-1319 Solihull 1322-1323 Tyseley 1327 Small Heath South Jn 1328 Birmingham Moor Street 1336 5H02 SX 14/05/12 to 25/05/12 Birmingham Moor Street 1424 Small Heath South Jn 1427 Tyseley 1428 Bentley Heath Crossing 1433 Dorridge Up Passenger Loop 1434-1443 Dorridge 1444 Hatton 1448 Leamington Spa 1455-1503 Fenny Compton 1516 Banbury 1522 Aynho Jn 1527 Bicester North 1533 Haddenham & Thame Parkway 1541-1543 Princes Risborough 1549-1551 Saunderton 1555 High Wycombe 1559-1600 Gerrards Cross 1608 West Ruislip 1613-1653 South Ruislip 1655 Wembley Stadium 1659-1702 Neasden South Jn 1705-1710 Wembley Gcj 1711 Wembley Lmd 1715 hope thats of some use to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14, 2012 And - so I've been told - not an easy thing to do on the full size vehicles Certainly not with the curve of the tumble home to contend with, a fabricators nightmare. The easiest way to do it would be to make a template of the coach side and mark the position of the flat section cut this out and then use the template to mark the bodyside/door for cutting, and use the other bit to mark out and cut the flat section and weld it in. still a sod of a job to get the transition curve from one to the other though. Cheers SS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Certainly not with the curve of the tumble home to contend with, a fabricators nightmare. The easiest way to do it would be to make a template of the coach side and mark the position of the flat section cut this out and then use the template to mark the bodyside/door for cutting, and use the other bit to mark out and cut the flat section and weld it in. still a sod of a job to get the transition curve from one to the other though. Cheers SS And individually for each door aperture - I understand that the sizes and position of the apertures tended to vary somewhat - before any bodywork mods were done to take the new doors hence the problems which led to delayed acceptance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Jim Not much chance of me getting to Banbury in the next few weeks. Are there any plans for loco hauled services at weekends do you know? I reckon that the existing door panel sans glazing could be filled then rubbed smooth after which a unit able file then used across the end to a pre marked line might do it on Daopl N scale MK 3's. Might have to find a spare one and have a go. It's repeating it on another 4 coaches that old be laborious. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 14, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 14, 2012 Not much chance of me getting to Banbury in the next few weeks. Are there any plans for loco hauled services at weekends do you know? the test train is only going to run monday to friday, there are no public loco hauled trains at the weekend at the moment either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeofyork Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Interesting to see photos of the new vestibule. Looks like the gangway doors have been removed in order to fit the new sliding doors between carriages. Are there any changes to the main part of the interior (can't find any photos of those) or are they basically the same as they were in WSMR days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 16, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2012 the seating area is the same as wsmr but the vestibules are totally different, completly new design Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 17, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2012 here is a picture i took this morning to show the difference between the original door (non public one on the buffet car) and the power door quite a difference in them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 17, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2012 I was studying one of my spare Dapol WSMR mk3's last night. I reckon its still doable in N. I was patching a class 67 and DVT last night where I had rubbed off the WSMR branding with a fairly close Humbrol grey paint. WIll have a close look once its dry to see how close a match the patching is. If its Ok, I may try altering a mk3 door. The only problem is doing the coloured bands above and below the window grey band. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningduck Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 So now that power doors have ''been done'' on a mk3, theres a higher chance of HSTs soldiering on for longer, with their next refurb including a power door fit? Perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 17, 2012 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2012 i believe other tocs are watching with interest!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Once again Chiltern are leading the way ,hope the internal doors are okay ,seem to remember them opening randomly particularily on curves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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